I say hell no. Let me know what you think.
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110812/smartphone-riots-canada-110813/
Shoud police be able to crack into your BlackBerry?
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F*ck no. I had this happen to me in east los Angeles, even though my blackberry was encrypted the charge was bogus, plus they demanded me to unlock my blackberry, and had one of their IT guys to hack it & couldn't. when they tried it made a noise like a hammer hitting wood lol it was hilarious.
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No, because a lot of personal information will end up being resold to the Mafia.
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ofutur said:
No, because a lot of personal information will end up being resold to the Mafia.lol
I got nothing to hide in my phone!
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certifiedRHCE said:
F*ck no. I had this happen to me in east los Angeles, even though my blackberry was encrypted the charge was bogus, plus they demanded me to unlock my blackberry, and had one of their IT guys to hack it & couldn't. when they tried it made a noise like a hammer hitting wood lol it was hilarious.do expand on this story please!
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Not without reasonable cause and a supoena. It's like if they come search your house, they need a warrent. Rim isn't going to give them access simply because they ask, see quote below in Globe and Mail on August 12th:
RIM is no stranger to government interference. Last year, a number of countries in the Middle East and Asia threatened to ban certain BlackBerry services unless the Canadian firm gave their security agencies greater access to encrypted communications. RIM insists that it does not provide different levels of access to different countries, and provides assistance only within the limits of local lawful access laws.
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Rim can't release BBM messages cuz Rim doesn't have them.
However Rim needs to release phone holders BBID if they're given a warrent by the government and I'm assuming warrents don't necessarily fall over the tree.
There's a fine line of protecting your privacy especially if you did nothing wrong to hiding behind that same privacy rule to get away from something if you did use your BB in break the law. Nobody should be allowed to do that.
But the police would definitely need a warrant and supoena for Rim to release that. If I was Rim's legal department that would be what I would require to protect my client. You can bet Rim has some darn good lawyers!!
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RIM has your BBM messages if you're using BIS.
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If you're using BIS then wouldn't the police also need the carriers' permission too?
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RIM may, in its sole discretion, immediately without notice to You..... limit Your access to, or suspend Your Account or access to any Member Services for any reason whatsoever, including but not limited to: a) breaches or violations of the BlackBerry Membership Agreement or other incorporated agreements or guidelines, (b) requests by law enforcement or other government agencies, (c) discontinuance or material modification to the Member Services (or any part thereof), (d) unexpected technical or security issues or problems, (e) extended periods of inactivity, (f) engagement by You in fraudulent, unlawful, and/or illegal activities, or...
Above quote taken from Rim user agreement.
However I still don't think you can recover BBM messages from Rim's BIS servers, (think how clutter those servers would be with the billions of BBM sent thru on a daily basis) but I think the police can get Rim to release BBIDs which can be traceable to the owner/user etc. The messages will reside in the phone's memory.
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only if you are suspect to a major crime and there is reason to belive something incriminating is on your phone
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see line "f".
Looting, arson, assault would be consider unlawful activities. These are felony charges, they're consider major crimes. You don't need to murder somebody for the police to have the right to go into your phone.
I believe the Brits have this in in their criminal code (just like Canada): Unlawful assembly - if told by authorities to disperse and you continue to stay it's considered Unlawful assembly and you can and will be arrested and subject to prosecution.
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Whether it's right or wrong that Rim release the info, Rim will protect themselves legally and step away from any illegal association and this is what Rim will do everytime. Be it anywhere in the world.
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Regardless of where I am I do have an expectation of privacy on my mobile phone. Why should the police in the US, UK, CA or Egypt be allowed to crack into your phone without legitimate cause, legal course and a warrant to do so. Gov't continues to erode the everyday citizen's rights little by little under the guise they are protecting us. From what I wonder sometimes.
Who is to say you can trust the police officer who pulls you over and demands access to your phone. Who is to say they aren't harassing an individual or abusing their power. There must always be checks and balances.
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Team, KryptonSoft, IndiaPosted 9 months ago #Post-Permalink -
I think the question is kinda moot. The bottom line is they can't and I don't think even RIM can.
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