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- 20% less battery life, 2-3 second lag, and only 20% of the apps run. Coupled with a slow processor and abysmal screen resolution for a flagship phone and the fact that a good deal of BB users would have to jump ship on their service provider, I'm thinking that anyone that says this phone is incredible, awesome or even anything more than fair is not being honest. Lets face it, this phone is an embarrassment for a company that Should be producing a much better product at this stage of the game.
- There is a big difference between being "hard" on a phone and the phone just being made poorly like joe257 claims ALL HTC phones are. When you make a blanket statement like, all phones made by HTC suck or that they reduce their quality in order to pump out more phones, you have to expect to receive criticism. When you also make a statement that 75% of a company's product has been returned, you have to expect to be called on an obvious falsehood. I'm not flat out calling the guy a liar, but there is nothing to support his claim. He may have read this somewhere, I don't know but when you assert your knowledge over a product and throw numbers out, you own your own statements so my comment is very appropriate. Keeping inline with the original topic of this article, the Android phones would not be capturing a majority of the market if they "Sucked" and had a 75% return rate. joe257 makes a few comments that are his opinion, but he is portraying his opinion as a fact, which it is obviously not that is all I'm saying. Fact is, They are, and that would imply, unless people don't mind carrying phones that suck for whatever reason, the phones really can't possibly suck that much, can they. People seem to stray from the topic which is simply that Rim is losing market share to companies that are selling better phones at this point in time. I have been a BB owner for the last ten years. Every member of my household owns a BlackBerry and there would be nothing that I would like to see more than Rim releasing an "Android / iPhone Killer". Sadly, the Torch is not that phone and companies like HTC are selling phones with the features that people want more than what BlackBerry has to offer at this point and the data in the market share reflects that.
- I don't have to own one to see how it's made. I've personally seen how they are made. Again, you may have had unusually bad luck with them, 4 returned ? that is hard to substantiate. You honestly think that anyone will believe that any commercially viable company would have a return rate even approaching 75% and keep the product on the market or have any major review to that fact, thats not even logical. The Pre was rumored in a few stories to have a return rate of over 40% but was later revealed that the actual rate was around 11% and the "Fake" data was attributed to individuals that had something to gain by reporting unrealistically fraudulent numbers. Your entitled to your opinion, I'm just saying, people are going to cal BS when you sound like you work for Rim or Apple while unrealistically bashing the competition.
- Do you expect anything less? A phone buyer wants a phone that will do what "Other" phones are already doing. Of Rim's own admission they are stating that the torch is not so innovative and mind blowing, it just does the compulsory "Triple Axle" that has come to be expected of a phone, well. They are totally ignoring the fact that the customer is point blank stating, "I Want More! than a Triple Axle". Android phones give you a Triple Axle with a double flip, landing on one foot. They do this and they make it look like that is the way it's supposed to be. To top it off Rim then pokes more than half of their customer base in the eye by making the Torch an AT&T exclusive phone. Like I said previously, they need to catch up fast, or this will be considered their "Shark Jump".
- You my friend are a BB fanboy. If your story is true, you have the worst luck with phones ever. I do not currently own an HTC phone but I have seen almost every model irl and assessed them. You claim of them being poorly made is totally without merit.
- Hate to say it but Michael Jones above makes some good points. Rim may have Jumped the Shark on this one.
- He is talking about the flash, you can turn it on and use it as a flash-light.
- I remember when "My Job" went to a paperless system in which all of the forms we used you had to look for an "Unadulterated" hard copy to use which were mostly kept in files spread out all over the office. The "New System" in which you went to the nearest computer, clicked on the file that contained the form you needed and sent it to the printer right next to you in a pristine form, was way beyond what some of the "Older", and I just mean people who were resistant to this change, had a horrible time with the system. They even resorted to taking the print cartridges out of printers and throwing them away in an attempt to hold on to "The way it's always been"
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