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Black Friday PlayBook Prices Confirmed? PlayBook This Season’s Kindle Fire Killer?

I was walking through my local Staples today and spent a few minutes playing with the demo unit for Amazon’s new Kindle Fire. Within a few minutes, a Staples employee came over and whispered that I should consider the BlackBerry PlayBook if I was looking for more of a “tablet” and less of a “reader.” I gave him an interested look and he followed up by telling me that the PlayBook would be the same price as the Kindle Fire on Black Friday. That would make the baseline PlayBook $199.99, a price that jives with what we previously reported here.  Is a $199.99 PlayBook this season’s Kindle Fire killer?

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  1. Kindle Fire and Playbook haven’t even gone through a Christmas season… how can they be killers when you don’t know how they performed previously?

    • re-read the headline.

      The Kindle Fire and Playbook are both on market.

      He says “this season’s” killer.. which would be true as we ARE in a season…..

      yes its the “first” season of the Kindle Fire, but, it is a season none the less

      thus the headline rings true

      • Technically, he says ‘Playbook this seaso’ns kindle fire killer.’ Looks to be aiming at the Fire.

        But why does there have to be a killer. Competition breeds better prices, innovation, and end user happiness. Why are options bad? Look at how many car brands there are. Something for everyone!

  2. I have been preaching this for the past week since the news came in about the $199.99 across the board.

    Everyone seems to be hoping on the bandwagon.

    All RIM needs to do is pump out a 4 week ad run on the Playbook and show the price.

    Even with its flaws, looking in the long run, its a WAY better purchase.

    Lets assume the February 2.0 launch isn’t another fib by RIM. Are you really going to buy a Kindle Fire for 199.99 as opposed to a $199.99 Playbook because you don’t want to have to wait 1-2 months to get email or kindle app without any effort (because you can get it now through the side loader android app, although the average user wouldn’t be able to do it)

    Most people who buy a Kindle Fire or Playbook this holiday season, will not be purchasing an upgrade for another 1-2 years. You have to live with this product for that long.

    The Playbook has WAY MORE upside than the Fire.

    One is crazy to get a Fire compared to a Playbook at the same price

  3. Spec-wise I think the Playbook is a good buy when compared to the Kindle Fire at the same price. However, I feel the days of comparing things based on specs is quickly fading. I haven’t tried the Kindle yet, but it seems like it’s setting itself up to be a very good Amazon/ereading experience vs the Playbook’s general browsing experience.

    Both can run Android apps so we can’t really compare based on that.

    It would be great if the Playbook was a great video/internet conference tool (no tablet has yet) but I haven’t seen an app that goes beyond your standard video chat.

    • I played with the Kindle Fire for about ten minutes. I wasn’t super impressed. Funny enough, like the PlayBook, I couldn’t find the native mail application. Although, that might be because I was on the demo unit.

      If there is one spec to look at when comparing it is the front facing camera. I would consider buying a solid tablet for my parents to check their email. But with a front facing camera we could also use it to video chat. For a family friendly device, the possibility of video calling could make all the difference between the two devices.

  4. I don’t see a single reason why the average joe would pick the PlayBook over the Kindle Fire.

    People buy into the content, not the device.

  5. Ofutur you have said some pretty ridiculous things in the past…but this takes the cake.

    You SERIOUSLY cannot think of a single reason?

    You SERIOUSLY think the “average joe” knows 2 shits about what content is on an Android tablet as opposed to a Blackberry tablet??

    You seriously think the cameras won’t sway the “average joe”???

    seriously???

    Please also list to me this all important “content” the Fire has that the Playbook will not have come OS 2.0. I really want to know the items you think will so aggressively sway the “average joe”

    • Mate… Look at the number of preorders for the Kindle vs how many PlayBooks were sold in 6 months… Content is key. People have faith in Amazon and RIM keeps failing at meeting deadlines and at delivering exciting products.
      Nobody cares about the camera on a tablet. We have better ones on our phone (except if you have a 9900 ;)).

      I can give you a couple of examples: Hulu Plus and the Amazon Kindle app, but I’m sure you can find many more by yourself.

  6. I am seeing some signs of a buzz developing as well. I called a few walmarts to see if I could get a second playbook for 200 and the guys I talked to actually said that they liked the playbook and wanted one. One guy said that alot of people that come into the electronics dept and say the playbook is the best tablet they’ve ever used. He said that he expects them to sell well against the fire if they are on sale. This compares to previous visits where the staff barely knew what the playbook was. He even knew about the android player. I think RIM has a chance to get the playbook restarted this holiday season. I think it is wise discounting heavily to drive volume. I mean, when no one knows about how good your product is you have to develop a market for it. We know from the $99 touchpad experience that price is probably the biggest barrier to widespread adoption. There will be plenty of time to sell full price playbooks once the momentum gets going (ie once there is user base growth big enough to get more devs excited) RIM can afford to price cut the playbook as their profitability and margins are second only to Apple among OEM’s. GO RIM!

  7. Here is why the PlayBook is better is superior to than the Kindle Fire:

    – One of the fastest and responsive touch screens on the market.
    – The unique swipe bezel gestures make the PlayBook the easiest to navigate.
    – The flash browser and snappy pinch and zoom features make it best in class.
    – The best tablet keyboard.
    – 2 stereo sound speakers.
    – The PlayBook has a camera and video camera.
    – The PlayBook has vidoe calling.
    – The PlayBook comes in 3 models: 16, 32, 64 gb, while Kindle Fire is limited to 8 gb, with no memory card.
    – For Blackberry users, there’s the Blackberry Bridge – use the internet anywhere.
    – With the 2.0 update, PlayBook will have the ability to create folders, native PIMM apps, android simulator ( Which will include Hulu, Netflix, Kindle I believe) and be more enteerprise ready than it is already, while the Kindle Fire will still primarily remain a media consumption tablet, despite upgrades.

    • Let’s see… 😉

      >- One of the fastest and responsive touch screens on the market.
      And one of the slowest accelerometer and GPS
      >- The unique swipe bezel gestures make the PlayBook the easiest to navigate.
      Agreed, this is great
      >- The flash browser and snappy pinch and zoom features make it best in class.
      You mean the browser that often crashes, that shows checkerboards all the time and whose Flash player breaks after a few uses?
      >- The best tablet keyboard.
      Nonsense. There is no text prediction or dictionary. How can this be the best keyboard?
      >- 2 stereo sound speakers.
      Agreed. This has been useful more than once. No need to use external speakers
      >- The PlayBook has a camera and video camera.
      We all have better cameras with us at all times: Our phones
      >- The PlayBook has vidoe calling.
      A feature that not even Apple has succeeded in making popular and besides, there is no Skype and no BBM
      >- The PlayBook comes in 3 models: 16, 32, 64 gb, while Kindle Fire is limited to 8 gb, with no memory card.
      I stream my content, don’t you?
      >- For Blackberry users, there’s the Blackberry Bridge – use the internet anywhere.
      Turn on the hotspot feature of your Android phone and your tablets will have an even better, faster way of surfing the Internet
      – With the 2.0 update, PlayBook will have the ability to create folders, native PIMM apps, android simulator ( Which will include Hulu, Netflix, Kindle I believe) and be more enteerprise ready than it is already, while the Kindle Fire will still primarily remain a media consumption tablet, despite upgrades.
      And the user of the kindle doesn’t really care about enterprise features, he wants to consume content.

      • >- One of the fastest and responsive touch screens on the market.
        And one of the slowest accelerometer and GPS – WRONG = OFUTUR BEING A TROLL
        >- The unique swipe bezel gestures make the PlayBook the easiest to navigate.
        Agreed, this is great
        >- The flash browser and snappy pinch and zoom features make it best in class.
        You mean the browser that often crashes, that shows checkerboards all the time and whose Flash player breaks after a few uses?- wtf are you talking about – TROLL
        >- The best tablet keyboard.
        Nonsense. There is no text prediction or dictionary. How can this be the best keyboard? – TRUE
        >- 2 stereo sound speakers.
        Agreed. This has been useful more than once. No need to use external speakers
        >- The PlayBook has a camera and video camera.
        We all have better cameras with us at all times: Our phones- WRONG WRONG WRONG…. most people do not have phones that film in HD. – TROLL
        >- The PlayBook has vidoe calling.
        A feature that not even Apple has succeeded in making popular and besides, there is no Skype and no BBM – remains to be seen – short sited of you Ofutur
        >- The PlayBook comes in 3 models: 16, 32, 64 gb, while Kindle Fire is limited to 8 gb, with no memory card.
        I stream my content, don’t you? – most people do not stream content. especially when you are bridged or tethered to a smartphone. your data usage would be huge. Sure if you are on wifi you can stream, but not on the go…. agian.. ofutur you are looking at things through such a narrow lense. TROLL
        >- For Blackberry users, there’s the Blackberry Bridge – use the internet anywhere.
        Turn on the hotspot feature of your Android phone and your tablets will have an even better, faster way of surfing the Internet – i know a lot of providers require you to pay for tethering and wifi hotspot… i could be wrong on this…
        – With the 2.0 update, PlayBook will have the ability to create folders, native PIMM apps, android simulator ( Which will include Hulu, Netflix, Kindle I believe) and be more enteerprise ready than it is already, while the Kindle Fire will still primarily remain a media consumption tablet, despite upgrades.
        And the user of the kindle doesn’t really care about enterprise features, he wants to consume content.- Did you miss the rest of his points – TROLL

        Ofutur.. you are officially the Berryreview Troll King. You try so hard to make sense and prove your points but you fail almost all the time. Stop wasting your time posting your nonsense here. Go to crackberry.

        • If I’m a troll, then you deserve the title of #1 blind fanboi ;). I wouldn’t use anything than a BlackBerry as my primary phone and I like my PlayBook, but I’m a realist.

          I’m wrong about the GPS. Seems it was a fault with earlier OS versions.
          I stand by what I said about the browser. Dolphin HD and Amazon’s Silk are better options.
          Most phones released this year come with a HD camera, even the BlackBerrys.
          The only times I would need a lot of storage space on a tablet is during long flights. I’m sure 8GB is plenty for most people, especially if they can access their music collection from the cloud.
          It’s true that tethering can be a problem in the US, so maybe in this case slow Internet is better than no Internet.
          And regarding the rest of the points in the last paragraph… they’re not advantages over the Kindle Fire since it already offers all of them.

          • lol blind fanboy. I can explain my viewpoints and they make sense, you can’t. You are a borderline hater and I don’t get why you post on this site.

            Your points are continually misguided and sometimes dead wrong.

            Sure there are phones out on the market that shoot 1080p, but, the majority of the population in the world DO NOT OWN THEM.

            Heck even the majority of the iPhone crowd have 3Gs (no HD) or 4 (only 720p). Your argument that most people have 1080p phones is hilarious and misguided. Even to suggest that the majority of people have 720p cameras is hilarious. Look at Canada for example. Blackberry has a market share of 30-40%…. and they only now just came out with a phone that shot 720p

            These stats would be transferrable to many other countries. Remember, the world isn’t just the grand USA

            I am glad YOU don’t need lots of space on your phone. The majority of people DO. If you did a poll of general public, they would think cloud storage has something to do with the space station. You need to get your head out of the clouds!

            You are already going back on what you said in a previous post, where you couldn’t figure out ONE REASON why someone would buy a Playbook over a Kindle Fire

            Leave your ridiculous viewpoints at Crackberry

            • Funny, I would say the same things about your viewpoints 😉

              I’m not a hater, I’m trying to stay objective, even though I love my BlackBerry.

              HD is 720p and the majority of the population in the world is no looking at buying a PlayBook or a Kindle Fire…
              Canada is probably the only country in the world where RIM has such a market share, BlackBerrys literally don’t exist in Germany.
              I’m well aware that the world isn’t just the USA, especially when I look at iPhone stats which don’t reflect what’s happening worldwide.

              I do need a lot of space on my phones, which I carry with me at all times, not on my tablet. I could even stream content from my phone to my PlayBook, if only RIM had had the sense of releasing a DLNA player.

              Now that Apple has named its solution iCloud, I’m sure more people will understand what it is, but even without naming it “the cloud”, more and more people are using it without even knowing it.

              I’m not going back on what I said, I corrected a mistake I made. I stand by what I said. BlackBerry fans may pick the PlayBook, but due to the current software situation, the PlayBook is not an appealing solution for the average joe.
              The price is not the only reason people choose the Kindle Fire over other Android tablets.

              • I don’t think BB fans are the only ones picking up PlayBooks these days.

                On top of that, it seems a lot of people in this forum consider you an average Joe, anyway. 😉

                • At $200, it’s worth a try for people looking for something different, but the competition is fierce.
                  As I said earlier, let’s wait for the official numbers…

                  Interesting to see how an anonymous coward proclaiming to be the voice of the ‘people in this forum’ feels he knows me because I’ve answered to a question on a blog 😉

          • Are you saying that a cloud based browser is better than a fully fledged browser? The PB’s browser can keep up almost with anything you throw at it, and if it crashes, it’s usually a segmentation fault. My workaround is to close all apps and let the browser do its job. =)
            The PB camera destroys the ipad2’s camera, which is crap (I own that too).
            Also, you are saying you stream movies? Can you stream a 1.2GB 720p full feature film without killing your data plan? Let’s not even talk 1080p movies that can be beautifully played on an external display!

            • I never said that a cloud based browser was better. Silk is a fully fledged browser that can be used without sending data to the cloud.
              Having said that it seems the Kindle Fire is having some issues with HTML5 apps, which is more of a concern for developers than it is for end users.
              The PlayBook’s browser doesn’t work with Google Maps and is very sluggish when showing Google plus. You don’t have these problem on Dolphin.
              And a crash is a crash, it doesn’t matter if it’s a plugin that stops working or a segmentation fault. The end user experience is the same. It got a lot more reliable in 1.0.7, but it’s broken again in 2.0 beta.
              As I said before, I’m not sure many people care about the cameras on their tablets. Could be useful for video chat I guess, but for anything else, people have phones.
              And yes, I can “stream a 1.2GB 720p full feature film without killing [my] data plan”, because I’m using wifi when I want to watch a movie and the TVs are not available. If it’s during a commute, I could store a few TV episodes, in which case 8GB would be plenty of space.

  8. Playbook is a much better tablet, no lags with 2X more memory and 2 cameras. For the same price, the Playbook is a much better deal.

  9. ofutur is a troll, just read his last 10 posts, they all trash blackberry.

    Check out this 76 page thread on this whole playbook sale, it’s going off! One way or another there’s going to be a whole lot more playbook owners next week which can only be good for the ecosystem,

    http://forums.redflagdeals.com/elect-merged-wm-staples-fs-bb-blackberry-playbook-198-starting-nov-18th-1104350/

    Thanks Sonic77 at crackberry for posting this

    • Yeah, the sale is going real well ;):
      From that thread
      “”Just giving a heads up I will be returning my 16GB one tomorrow to square one walmart. Looking to get the A1 from Lenova.”
      I am going to return it too. Save $$ to get the Transformer Prime instead”

      You can’t predict sales based on elements like this. We all thought the PlayBook would do OK at launch. People were excited, etc.

      • The sale is going well you dufus will continue to do well

        The point of a sale is to attract interest and increase sales

        It is and will accomplish that

        go home ofutur… stop posting here

        • Let’s wait for the next earnings call from both RIM and Amazon and then we’ll see how sales went for both products…

          I really wish the PlayBook was flying off the shelves, so that more, better apps could be released for it, but the reality is that people are not that interested.

  10. Correction: 108 page thread.

  11. You can get BB PlayBook’s at walmart.com starting at $198 right now. I just ordered mine:)

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