Comments on: RIM Confirms BIS 3.0 Features Making No Mention of 2 Way Gmail Synchronization!!! http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/ BlackBerry News and Reviews You Can Use Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:07:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BIS 3.0 Goes Live in EMEA – No Gmail Read/Unread Sync | BerryReview.com » http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48457 BIS 3.0 Goes Live in EMEA – No Gmail Read/Unread Sync | BerryReview.com » Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:01:11 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48457 [...] out. Our friends in Europe let us know that they have been upgraded to BIS 3.0. Sadly it looks like we were right and Gmail read/unread sync was pulled from the BIS 3.0 release. I even went back to some [...] [...] out. Our friends in Europe let us know that they have been upgraded to BIS 3.0. Sadly it looks like we were right and Gmail read/unread sync was pulled from the BIS 3.0 release. I even went back to some [...]

]]> By: alb123 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48093 alb123 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:01:10 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48093 Reading this article really saddens me. It's almost as if RIM just doesn't give a crap about their users. I keep my gmail accounts as POP on my BlackBerry because they actually hit my device faster than if I had them set as IMAP. Since I'm not getting 2-way syncronization, I might as well go with speed. Reading this article really saddens me. It’s almost as if RIM just doesn’t give a crap about their users. I keep my gmail accounts as POP on my BlackBerry because they actually hit my device faster than if I had them set as IMAP. Since I’m not getting 2-way syncronization, I might as well go with speed.

]]> By: Mike k http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48029 Mike k Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:06:47 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48029 Well thanks for the awesome responce. I see what you mean. The whole iphone thing dont even get me started! Fido and rogers have developed an iphone app for account info ummmm blackberrry? Im ready to make the switch if BIS doesnt sorrect my email and start syncing everything. Tasks? Yes rim cares about corporate and corporate only :( Well thanks for the awesome responce. I see what you mean. The whole iphone thing dont even get me started! Fido and rogers have developed an iphone app for account info ummmm blackberrry? Im ready to make the switch if BIS doesnt sorrect my email and start syncing everything. Tasks? Yes rim cares about corporate and corporate only :(

]]> By: LarryMcJ http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48027 LarryMcJ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:54:31 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48027 Mike...actually, it's not. There are reams written about this but basically, all IMAP does is push your Gmail to your BB. There are one or two things that sync if you use RIM's Enhanced Gmail Plugin, but very little. For anyone who lives with Gmail, it is woefully short of the many features Gmail provides. BIS 3.0 was supposed to rectify these things, but apparently that's not going to be the case. Even if BIS were to include all the things it was touted to...it was only enough to keep die-hard BB user around for a bit longer. While moving to Android is the optimum way to have all Gmail features on the BB. It seems so sad to see this as even the iPhone has full Gmail, but not RIM...they still forget that some of their pockets get lined with money from consumers and all they care about is the enterprise market :-( Mike…actually, it’s not. There are reams written about this but basically, all IMAP does is push your Gmail to your BB. There are one or two things that sync if you use RIM’s Enhanced Gmail Plugin, but very little. For anyone who lives with Gmail, it is woefully short of the many features Gmail provides. BIS 3.0 was supposed to rectify these things, but apparently that’s not going to be the case.

Even if BIS were to include all the things it was touted to…it was only enough to keep die-hard BB user around for a bit longer. While moving to Android is the optimum way to have all Gmail features on the BB. It seems so sad to see this as even the iPhone has full Gmail, but not RIM…they still forget that some of their pockets get lined with money from consumers and all they care about is the enterprise market :-(

]]> By: RIM confirma características de BIS 3.0  | Tonos, Fondos, Protectores y TODO para Celulares http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48024 RIM confirma características de BIS 3.0  | Tonos, Fondos, Protectores y TODO para Celulares Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:30:20 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48024 [...] berryreview Compartir Artículos **GRATIS** Role Call® Tasks Lite v [...] [...] berryreview Compartir Artículos **GRATIS** Role Call® Tasks Lite v [...]

]]> By: Mike k http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48023 Mike k Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:27:30 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48023 Wouldn't IMAP be a 2 way sync? Maybe Im missing something here... Wouldn’t IMAP be a 2 way sync? Maybe Im missing something here…

]]> By: LarryMcJ http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48011 LarryMcJ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:15:39 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48011 After 11 years using a BlackBerry, this will be the end for me if they leave off 2-way Gmail sync. For me, it's all about Google Apps and Gmail, and I've not changed to Android only because I love my BB and this has been dangling in front of our noses for six months. But Android obviously has even more than 2-way Gmail sync...it perfectly syncs everything about gmail to your phone. It's a shame RIM just can't figure out that Google Apps users are big in numbers and loyal to their product. After 11 years using a BlackBerry, this will be the end for me if they leave off 2-way Gmail sync. For me, it’s all about Google Apps and Gmail, and I’ve not changed to Android only because I love my BB and this has been dangling in front of our noses for six months. But Android obviously has even more than 2-way Gmail sync…it perfectly syncs everything about gmail to your phone. It’s a shame RIM just can’t figure out that Google Apps users are big in numbers and loyal to their product.

]]> By: DK http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48008 DK Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:46:17 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48008 "The argument for using Android over a BB is quite compelling when it comes overall functionality." Yeah, except for limited Exchange support on many of the Android builds. Amazing that even Apple supports Exchange 2003 better than Google. But as someone who uses both Gmail & Exch 2k3, it just depends on which enhanced functionality you value more. Personally, Exch is more critical. But I'm still dying for Gmail sync the way I had with Yahoo before I switched... “The argument for using Android over a BB is quite compelling when it comes overall functionality.”

Yeah, except for limited Exchange support on many of the Android builds. Amazing that even Apple supports Exchange 2003 better than Google. But as someone who uses both Gmail & Exch 2k3, it just depends on which enhanced functionality you value more. Personally, Exch is more critical. But I’m still dying for Gmail sync the way I had with Yahoo before I switched…

]]> By: Bla1ze http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48001 Bla1ze Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:55:13 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-48001 How is it going back to square one? Google has their own email in order on their own platform, lol. Aside from that, my Android device sends email no more then 3 secs later then my BB. The argument for using Android over a BB is quite compelling when it comes overall functionality. How is it going back to square one? Google has their own email in order on their own platform, lol. Aside from that, my Android device sends email no more then 3 secs later then my BB. The argument for using Android over a BB is quite compelling when it comes overall functionality.

]]> By: Gmail deleting on Device and not on account - Page 2 - The Unofficial BlackBerry Support Forum http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47998 Gmail deleting on Device and not on account - Page 2 - The Unofficial BlackBerry Support Forum Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:04:50 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47998 [...] only mention that you will be able to create and delete labels from your BlackBerry. Full article: RIM Confirms BIS 3.0 Features Making No Mention of 2 Way Gmail Synchronization!!! | BerryReview.com (Let fly guys and girls (but no swearing [...] [...] only mention that you will be able to create and delete labels from your BlackBerry. Full article: RIM Confirms BIS 3.0 Features Making No Mention of 2 Way Gmail Synchronization!!! | BerryReview.com (Let fly guys and girls (but no swearing [...]

]]> By: Cadillac Cowboy http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47993 Cadillac Cowboy Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:25:33 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47993 I use Google Apps for all my domains, so it's a little disappointing that two-way synchronization is not going to be added to the BlackBerry Internet Service (BIS) with the 3.0 upgrade... However, it is the support for the ODFs (OpenDocument Formats) that I am most looking forward to - I've been waiting for smartphones to support this for a long, LONG, L-O-N-G time! Now all we need is DataViz to added support for the ODFs and I'm all set! I use Google Apps for all my domains, so it’s a little disappointing that two-way synchronization is not going to be added to the BlackBerry Internet Service (BIS) with the 3.0 upgrade…

However, it is the support for the ODFs (OpenDocument Formats) that I am most looking forward to – I’ve been waiting for smartphones to support this for a long, LONG, L-O-N-G time!

Now all we need is DataViz to added support for the ODFs and I’m all set!

]]> By: ckinglam http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47992 ckinglam Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:44:33 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47992 I found it interesting how many people have been tempted by the Android platform...Given it is the newest and excitement around...but you are running the risk to move back to square one and wait for Google to develop and mature Android overtime. I found it interesting how many people have been tempted by the Android platform…Given it is the newest and excitement around…but you are running the risk to move back to square one and wait for Google to develop and mature Android overtime.

]]> By: Tim http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47990 Tim Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:23:26 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47990 Wow, everyone been waiting for 2-way Gmail sync ever since Gmail released IMAP, which was roughly October of 2008.... seriously RIM, get on the ball. Good bye BlackBerry, hello Android... Wow, everyone been waiting for 2-way Gmail sync ever since Gmail released IMAP, which was roughly October of 2008…. seriously RIM, get on the ball.
Good bye BlackBerry, hello Android…

]]> By: Robert http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47972 Robert Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:47:26 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2010/03/10/rim-confirms-bis-3-0-features-making-no-mention-of-2-way-gmail-synchronization/#comment-47972 Like you the two-way Gmail sync is the *only* worthwhile update to BIS 3.0. Maybe it's been pushed to BIS 3.1 so RIM can release v3 this month? Otherwise, BIS 3.0, *yawn* ... OT, while reading the docs you linked I found two docs on bugs on OS 5 that have been hot topics in the forums. The threaded SMS bug (it is a bug): http://tinyurl.com/BB-OS5-SMS-Bug And the mute/lock function (intentional not a bug): http://tinyurl.com/BB-OS5-lock-Bug -- Robert. Like you the two-way Gmail sync is the *only* worthwhile update to BIS 3.0. Maybe it’s been pushed to BIS 3.1 so RIM can release v3 this month?

Otherwise, BIS 3.0, *yawn* …

OT, while reading the docs you linked I found two docs on bugs on OS 5 that have been hot topics in the forums. The threaded SMS bug (it is a bug):

http://tinyurl.com/BB-OS5-SMS-Bug

And the mute/lock function (intentional not a bug):

http://tinyurl.com/BB-OS5-lock-Bug

– Robert.

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