BBOS found the Official OS release from Boost Mobile for the BlackBerry 8330. It is kind of funny that an older model got an official OS upgrade to 5.0 before the 8900 or the 9000 did from US carriers. You can pick up the upgrade at this link & let us know in the comments any problems you find if you do upgrade.
Now all I want to know is why AT&T & T-mobile are working at a snails pace to release it for their devices.
ShvartzBerry ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 288
Posted: January 22, 2010 at 1:37 PM EST
Would love to know if someone gets this going on a Verizon 8330. I sure am not going to be the guinea pig
Ed Not Registered
Posted: January 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM EST from my BlackBerry 8330
I tried an earlier beta release of 5.0 on my Vzw 8330. It took like 6 minutes to boot, was bloated and slow. It also kep running out of space even with the same apps I had. The browser was a lot better. It also brought up the task switcher when you held down the blackberry key.It had a nicer BB messenger app. I finally reverted to the official vzw 4.5 release and am much happier.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1231
Posted: January 22, 2010 at 8:06 PM EST
any one install this one yet?
crackmonkey Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 1:13 AM EST
ok, i did it. loaded up ok. we’ll see how it runs over time. so far seems kind of sluggish.
crackmonkey Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 1:26 AM EST
btw, i have a sprint curve 8330. this release uses up a ton of memory still. sluggish. we’ll see over the next few days if it is any better about rebooting twice a day. if it is as bad as ver .230 i’ll be going back to os 4.5 or upgrading to a tour 2 when they hit sprint.
joshmo Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 2:21 PM EST
so i downloaded the installer, deleted the vendor file and my desktop manager can’t seem to recognize that there is new software available. hints?
thanks
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1231
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 2:52 PM EST
With the new DM RIM implemented a feature that only Official OS is loaded if you enable the online auto updater so as long as you have an internet connection that allows DM to connect to the Internet it won’t allow you to do so. The work around is using the stand alone app loader. Another good tool to use is BBSAK http://www.berryreview.com/2009/10/28/blackberry-swiss-army-knife-bbsak-1-7-released/
This tool allows you to backup all your 3rd party apps in case your upgrade goes wrong, check it out.
crackmonkey Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 2:24 PM EST from my BlackBerry 8330
Yep, its weird like that. You need to use the loader. Its in the same folder as the vendor.xml. Sorry, I forgot to mention that in my last post.
joshmo Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 2:50 PM EST
Hey thanks for the advice, although I don’t think I’m doing it right. The loader in the same file in mine, is for the applications on my phone it doesn’t load the new software. aha im a nub, please help
thanks
crackmonkey Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 2:53 PM EST from my BlackBerry 8330
Ok, here you go:
Step 1: Download and install the upgrade file.
Step 2: delete vendor.xml.
Step 3: use that loader in the same folder as the vendor.xml. It will ask you if you want to upgrade the system files on your bb after it checks out what the current “state” of it is after plugging it in. Then it’s pretty much just clicking through it and waiting and waiting and waiting.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1231
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM EST
Check this video out has a walk through http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXvRVAALjE4
I am more of a visual person so this should help out a little bit make sure desktop manager is closed if not the app loader won’t detect your OS in the PC. Launch the stand alone app loader and is exactly what they do on this video. Good luck.
joshmo Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 4:54 PM EST
Hey Thanks for the tool box thing, and shutting off the internet was the problem. Thanks guys
joshmo Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 3:30 PM EST
Hey guys, thanks for all the help, but the loader in the apploader file in the rim folder on my comp is for the applications on the device it shows me nothing more. ive never had this issue before.. arggg
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 5:39 PM EST
Luis, Neither AT&T or T-Mobile have 8830 Curve1′s. The 8830 (CDMA) is the only Curve1 with enough memory (96MB) of RAM to support this OS and by all accounts even this is a stripped down version (e.g. no new themes). Anyone who loads this I would suggest a custom install of the OS installing only the modules and third party apps you absolutely need. Devices running this will be very slooooooowwww.
As for other carriers, Sprint stopped carrying this so it’s unlikely we will ever see an official release for them and Verizon is notoriously slow for OS updates because they tend to be very picky.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1231
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 5:48 PM EST
yeah The comment has nothing to do with with Att and tmobile carrying the 8330 curves, That is why I said for their devices meaning the 89xx the bold 9000, is a follow up to my original comment at the beginning of the post.
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM EST
Gotcha, I took it out of context. Honestly I don’t understand why it matters what carrier the official comes from as long as it is official. That just means that some carrier somewhere have put it through enough testing to be reasonably sure that it does not have any major bugs. All builds, even the east Asian ones have the English language pack and even if you needed say Spanish you can steal that language pack from another (unofficial?) build with a similar number.
Yeah I know BIS users have restrictions but I seriously think BIS admins sometimes need to relax.
I haven’t bothered upgrading my 9000 because I am not using it but I have downloaded official 5.0 builds for if I need them and the 8900 is going to become a 9700 as soon as I get my taxes back and they let me use my March upgrade, so I’m in no rush given I also have a Tour.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1231
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 6:23 PM EST
nice collection, but yeah the carriers do fine tune some of the specific apps and they have to test out that the OS works with their radio bands since for example the 9700 att vs 9700 tmobile are a little bit different that is were you get sometimes users in different carriers having problems with the same OS. But I don’t agree with the fact that RIM lets the carriers decide when to release it since some take forever. Until this date I have not use an official OS for more than a few weeks.
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:12 PM EST
That’s because T-Mobile uses a different technology for 3G from anyone else in the world and it is on a different frequency.
Most of us aren’t gonna use another carrier’s specific apps anyway
crackmonkey Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 6:00 PM EST from my BlackBerry 8330
The packages aren’t so much carrier specific, although they’ll have you believe they are. They are device specific.
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 6:06 PM EST
who said anything about being carrier specific? Yes they are device specific which means that this will work on any 8830 (not 8830n) that has an ESN instead of an IMEI.
T-Mobile and AT&T use 8300, 8310 and 8320 the 8830 is a CDMA device that only works om VZW, Sprint, Bell, Telus, Boost, etc.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1231
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 6:24 PM EST
except for the world phones like the storm or the tour which can be unlock to use with a sim card but you won’t be able to use 3G on them.
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:09 PM EST
Un, we’re talking 83xx series here
Mendel Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:02 PM EST
Will this work on 8330m (MEID) or not?
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:06 PM EST
NO. They are different phones with different radios so they are not compatible.
Mendel Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:16 PM EST
Doesnt m stand for multilanguage?
Software For BlackBerry® Curve (TM) 8330 smartphone
BlackBerry Handheld Software v5.0.0.724 (Multilanguage)
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM EST
No, the 8330M is a different phone. Basically if your curve has an ESN then it is a 8330 but if it has an IMEI then it an 8830m. The change was made over some pattent dispute. They have different radios and the OS’s are not compatible. Many people had this same issue with the 4.5 upgrades. If you have an 8330m then you have to have an OS for that device.
Mendel Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:03 PM EST
And will it run faster or significantly slower? anyone tried?
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:08 PM EST
From what I’ve read it is very slow. I would not personally even consider this unless threaded SMS is that big a deal for you and the you are installing few if any third party apps.
Mendel Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:25 PM EST
Wont the Blackberry Browser be better also (as it currently is in the Tour Bold etc.?
Tim Not Registered
Posted: January 23, 2010 at 7:47 PM EST
Maybe a bit but the thing that frustrated me the most about the 8330 when I had it is I kept running into pages that told me “not enough memory to render page” or some-such thing. Errors like that will only get worse.
joshmo Not Registered
Posted: January 24, 2010 at 5:30 PM EST
so ive been running it since yesterday, its slower with custom themes, and applications like video and mp3 is slow. also my bbm dissapeared. so im going back to .169
Nicki Not Registered
Posted: January 24, 2010 at 7:04 PM EST
I installed this first as is – and while it worked it was sluggish. Shrinking this OS is pretty much a requirement for use on the 8330. I wiped and reinstalled the shrunken version and it’s awesome. I’m sitting at about 29 mb file free, with Facebook, Ubertwitter, Pandora (which works), NWS Client for weather, MaraTick, BBM, BB Maps and a couple other odds and ends. I haven’t had any problems with it! yay! The themes that work on 4.5 seem to have some issues, but the Nathanix themes work well.
Good luck and yay for an official 5.0 (I won’t hold my breath or wait on big red.)
crackmonkey Not Registered
Posted: January 24, 2010 at 7:10 PM EST from my BlackBerry 8330
What all did you take out to get it down that small?
Nicki Not Registered
Posted: January 24, 2010 at 11:38 PM EST
Pretty much everything but the basics – all the extra themes and languages, help files, voice dialing and voice notes, SIM card capabilities (since I’m on VZW) – um all of the games, I just went uber-basic to see how it worked…it’s so much better than when I installed the full thing.
joshmo Not Registered
Posted: January 24, 2010 at 8:46 PM EST
i re installed it after going back to the old os, and it works amazing, i have so many apps and themes and games, i wonder what i did right this time?
duke Not Registered
Posted: January 26, 2010 at 2:33 PM EST
I installed it and it works great on my 8330. Camera is a lot faster now. Love the new clock. I had to delete some apps to make room, and reinstall BBM from AppWorld, but I’m fine with that. I like the threaded SMS too. Pressing and holding “a” will lock the system and bring it to the clock (which has a cool bedside mode too).
ShvartzBerry ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 288
Posted: January 28, 2010 at 3:25 PM EST
Help! I upgraded my VZW 8330 to this OS without a hitch. The system itself seems to be working great. However, the display is all messed up. Most of the icons are ugly monochrome garbage. Nothing is styled properly. I try to go in to change my theme and I can’t seem to highlight “activate.” I can send screenshots if anyone thinks they might be able to solve this.
Thanks.
ShvartzBerry ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 288
Posted: January 28, 2010 at 5:37 PM EST
Reloaded the OS (5.0) and seemed to do the trick.
Phew, that was close!