UPDATE: Sorry guys. RIM’s legal counsel, Jordan Vaeth, seems to be a avid reader of BerryReview and keeps on sending in these takedown notices as you can see below. Guess RIM has nothing better to do… Though truthfully this OS was reported as causing a few issues.
Attention: ABUSE
Re: Notice of Copyright Infringement and Misappropriation of Trade Secret – Request for Immediate Take-down
Research In Motion Limited (“RIM”) is writing to notify you that RIM software, which appears to be on servers under your control, is infringing RIM’s copyright and constitutes an unauthorized disclosure of RIM’s trade secrets. We are placing you on notice that:
1. The copyright infringement in question is the unauthorized display and reproduction of the RIM strictly confidential operating system 5.0.0.191 posted on BerryReview.com (the “Infringing Material”). Disclosure of RIM’s confidential and proprietary trade secret information threatens to cause RIM irreparable harm.
RIM has not licensed, authorized, consented to, or otherwise permitted anyone to post the content contained in the Infringing Material. Accordingly, we request that you immediately remove and/or disable all access to the Infringing Material and provide confirmation of the same. The use of the Infringing Material is not approved, sanctioned or endorsed by RIM, and threatens to cause RIM irreparable harm.
2. The Infringing Material can be found at the following locations:
http://www.berryreview.com/2009/08/28/hot-os-v5-0-0-191-for-blackberry-tour/
Please remove any and all other instances of the Infringing Material from the BerryReview.com website. Please also restrict any future hosting or display of this software on this website.
3. I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted software and trade secrets described above is not authorized by the copyright or trade secret owner, its agent, or the law.
4. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in this notification is accurate and that I am authorized to act on behalf of RIM, the owner of the trade secrets and copyright in the above-designated software that is posted and available for download on your site.
5. My electronic signature is:
/JORDANVAETH/
Yours truly,
Jordan R. Vaeth
Commercial Counsel
Research In Motion Limited

automan69 ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 502
Posted: August 28, 2009 at 11:33 PM EST
WOW. DLing. I never heard of removing RIM internal apps from your computer before installing on your device)? what does this mean? can some explain it. Thanks
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1259
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:28 AM EST
The rim internal apps is a system set up so testers can send feedback to RIM but by going to control pannel and looking for that part of the software you can remove it is a separate set of tools that gets loaded to your device if not remove. You can also disable it from your device but its easier to just remove it from pc before upgrading the OS. Hope that makes sense. Not all leaks come with it but some do.
automan69 ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 502
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:49 AM EST
Thanks Luis for the responces. I have loaded it on to my Tour but have a black screen and the led is flashing red slowly. hmmmm still waiting to see what happens. Getting a little worried here. I might have to go back to 4.7.1.40 if it doesn’t load right.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1259
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:53 AM EST
your welcome, as long as it loads completely you should be fine, as a rule of thumb I always do a backup though DM, and also use BSAK http://www.berryreview.com/2009/08/21/blackberry-swiss-army-knife-bsak-updated-to-version-v1-5/ to back up all my 3rd party apps
automan69 ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 502
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:57 AM EST
Yes I did do a backup first before doing this. I just did a battery pull and still black screen and led flashing red slowly. Ok now i,m worried. I don’t know if I can restore back to 4.7. Any help with this would be great. Oh I have done tons of Os upgrades and this is the first for me.
Paul ( View Profile) Newcomer - Posts: 4
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM EST
I have the same problem. I also did a battery pull, but it is still flashing on and off. I can’t even do a reset or connect with BSAK. How do I bring it back to life?
Paul ( View Profile) Newcomer - Posts: 4
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM EST
I found the site on how to restore a “bricked” BB. It’s a shame this new OS didn’t work.
mcky Not Registered
Posted: August 28, 2009 at 11:44 PM EST
Was just sitting here bored and nuttin to do. Lo and behold, its time for some experiment…
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1259
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 1:21 AM EST
@automan69 I would use BSAK and use the wipe device option to where it gives you a white screen with an error and then try to reload the OS. That should fix it for you. It should also let you reload the previous OS, if you are going to go back to 4.7 un-install the 5.0 from your PC and re-install 4.7 that way your system is clean and DM doesn’t have any problem detecting it.
automan69 ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 502
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 1:34 AM EST
Thanks again Luis I had to go back to 4.7. It didn’t work for me. I lost all apps but not a big deal. Just sending my service books again.
One quick question is on BSAK how do you backup your Apps I hit the backup button and it shows me a list of all apps. Where does it store it on cp? Is there something I missed. It doesn’t tell you the location it is stored.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1259
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 1:48 AM EST from my BlackBerry 8900
Yeah it should store it on c:/program files/bsak/backup folder
ram Not Registered
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 3:17 AM EST from my BlackBerry 8900
I had installed 5.190 on my Curve 8900 by doing a complete wipe using BSAK. 5.190 works like charm, its more stable than the earlier 5.xxx versions, its supports both Yahoo.Mesg. & Gtalk which were not supported by earlier 5.xxx, even I see Battery life have imProved.. Worth upgrading.. Go for IT..
Develop_Ment ( View Profile) Newcomer - Posts: 14
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 11:37 AM EST
I currently backing up my 3rd party apps with BSAK. Then ill try and install the new OS without the internal apps. Im actually going to use the OS that doesn’t include them, i hope thats not the one that is giving some individuals trouble
automan69 ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 502
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM EST
Good luck…I have tried both with no luck. Let us know if you got it to install and what you did. Thanks. Oh I think BSAK is a pain in the azz because you have to install the cod,s One at a time.
Develop_Ment ( View Profile) Newcomer - Posts: 14
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:51 PM EST
Id rather not jinx it but it seems to be running smoothly as of right now. What gets me is that my service provider is Verizon of course, however, the service symbol shows 3G.
Anywho, I’ll report back any problems that occur. Sorry to hear that you havent got it running yet. Hopefully in time you can.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1259
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM EST
you don’t have to install the .cods one at a time either run DM or app loader it self and theres an actual .axl file that will list each application so you can select which apps you want to restore, the .cod install option is only available for those cases when you don’t have an .axl file but Bsak actually creates one when your doing the backup.
Develop_Ment ( View Profile) Newcomer - Posts: 14
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 1:08 PM EST
Ok so i noticed there was not a BBM included with this OS so i found it on this site to download OTA. I downloaded it and it shows that i downloaded however i cant find the icon. Do you know what went wrong there?
automan69 ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 502
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 1:54 PM EST
Oops my bad. I forgot about running DM to install the cod. Thanks Luis. I have done loads of Os upgrades and this one is throwing me for a loop. Would it be that my tour is unlocked???
Here is my step by step: DL and installed (both with or with out), but did one at a time. What I mean is I tried the first one then uninstalled it. then tried the other one. Which leads to step:2 doing it twice. Step:2 wipe for bb with BASK and then loaded the OS.
I had a pop up window saying something like….some data was lost in the download goto C\Docs and setting\Compag_owner\Mydocs
Loaderbackup(2009-08-29)jpd.
But here is the kicker I had blank black screen and the LED was flashing slowly. Nothing would happen, My bb would not reboot.
I have never seen this before. All the time when I did a Os upgrade it went smooth and easy. So anyone have any ideas what I did wrong??? Maybe I will wait till it is an offical for my carrier.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1259
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM EST
it might have to do something with whatever version you installed but it should not matter whether it is unlock or not. It maybe have just been some kind of other error that I can’t really think off right at the momment.
Josh Not Registered
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM EST
Installed it this morning. So far it’s been running great! It’s definitely faster and I love the threaded SMS. The only issue I’ve had so far is with Visual Voicemail. I had to install it from my backed up cods. Google Maps (with GPS), SmrtGuard, SocialScope, Opera Mini, Autostandby, BerryWeather, Evernote, LastPass, TetherBerry, and a few others all seem to be working without a problem thus far.
SouthFlaPi ( View Profile) Newcomer - Posts: 5
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:56 PM EST
Josh. Can you please let us know step by step what you did. I’ve done OS upgrades before but after reading a few comments, i chickened out! Which version did you download (with internal apps or W/O internal apps)? Did this solve the GPS problem with Google Maps on the Tour? Much thanks!
Josh Not Registered
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 7:34 PM EST
I started with a clean slate. I used the W/O internal apps installer. I backed up my BB with the DM and BBSAK. I then used BBSAK to wipe my BB. I then loaded the OS from the load button in BBSAK. It was smooth sailing from there. I reloaded all apps by redownloading them from the net with the exception of Autostandby (because I purchased it through BB App World) and Visual Voicemail (it was giving me a proxy error, but seems to work fine from my backed-up cod.) That’s it! To get GPS working I just went into Options->Advanced Options->GPS and turned GPS Services to Location On. 7 hours later and I’m still extremely pleased!
Charles Not Registered
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM EST
I am having problems with yahoo mess, facebook not being able to reload and an error message when I plug in the usb cable that the power source is insufficent. Anyone have insight they can share.
Luis Merlos ( View Profile) Moderator - Posts: 1259
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 4:36 PM EST
as far as i know facebook and some other rim apps like myspace and BBM5 will not work with this new OS.
automan69 ( View Profile) Enthusiast - Posts: 502
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM EST
One think I forgot to mention is do we have to delete the vendor.xml file.
This is something I didn’t do. OLD AGE you know.
@ Josh did you delete the vendor.xml file.
Develop_Ment ( View Profile) Newcomer - Posts: 14
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 5:33 PM EST
My findings:
I installed the new OS and ran pretty well including having many nice new features, however, MANY are having problems with the new 5.0 BBM showing up. Some can get it to show up but others cannot. I was among the ones who couldnt get it to work. The OS is cool to play around with but I ended up just reverting back to 4.7. Ill wait until something official
Dominik Not Registered
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 7:37 PM EST
It is a nice OS, cannot charge while running the OS is no good. BBM 5.0 isn’t working that was fine. The charging portion was the main switch back to 4.7
Josh Not Registered
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM EST
Charging is working for me. It just isn’t showing the lightning bolt over the battery indicator.
Jay Not Registered
Posted: August 29, 2009 at 11:04 PM EST
Failure….bricked my berry. Was able to recover it back to the 4.7 OS. during the process of reconnecting I got some cryptic error about can not connect to multiplatform blah blah blah.
Tried it multiple times with same error.
Nate Not Registered
Posted: August 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM EST
Well I have tried everything. Installed both versions, with and without the RIM apps, and big fat brick both times. I really wanted threaded sms and i’m a little annoyed that I cant get it to work and no one seems to be able to explain why. Back on the official release, guess Im going to have to fire up my storm.
Roy Not Registered
Posted: August 30, 2009 at 10:58 PM EST
Boom chica laka chica boom!
Matt Not Registered
Posted: October 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM EST
Does anyone have BB Tour OS v5.0.0.191 file they can email me????