Comments on: Unimpressed by the BlackBerry App World? Welcome to the Club… http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/ BlackBerry News and Reviews You Can Use Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:39:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Samantha http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-29761 Samantha Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:45:11 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-29761 Yes! I haven't been able to connect to the app world server. I have tried several things but still can't get it to work, any suggestions? (I'm using the new blackberry pearl flip). Yes! I haven’t been able to connect to the app world server. I have tried several things but still can’t get it to work, any suggestions? (I’m using the new blackberry pearl flip).

]]> By: Glenn http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22742 Glenn Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:32:10 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22742 I really wish people would stop trying to compare the Apple App Store and Rim's Blackberry World. You would think people would be more supportive of RIM, but all I see is posts griping about how Skype for Blackberry won't have true VOIP, etc. Did you ever stop to consider that not all Blackberries have Wifi, and they didn't want to release a product where some would have to call an access number while others could use Wifi? I really wish people would stop trying to compare the Apple App Store and Rim’s Blackberry World. You would think people would be more supportive of RIM, but all I see is posts griping about how Skype for Blackberry won’t have true VOIP, etc.

Did you ever stop to consider that not all Blackberries have Wifi, and they didn’t want to release a product where some would have to call an access number while others could use Wifi?

]]> By: Tony http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22671 Tony Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:42:30 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22671 I actually really liked app world. You can see what programs you can pay and the ones that are free. Iheartradio was the creme of the crop from these. I really liked it. I don't think it's going to blow you away. But It is good I actually really liked app world. You can see what programs you can pay and the ones that are free. Iheartradio was the creme of the crop from these. I really liked it. I don’t think it’s going to blow you away. But It is good

]]> By: squished18 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22653 squished18 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:04:20 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22653 Ronen, I agree that you're being overly harsh. I think the problem here is that the app is not made for users like yourself. Power users that already know the ins and outs of BlackBerry are likely not the target here. I believe the main thrust of this application are users new to BlackBerry and new to smartphones. You're right - someone that knew all the BlackBerry blogs and software sites didn't need this new app. However, there are likely a very large number of users that don't know about Handango, the various BlackBerry blogs, and the different BlackBerry forums. For these new users, this will be a good place for them to get started on exploring the vast additional functionality that BlackBerry has to offer that doesn't come straight out of the box. squished Ronen,

I agree that you’re being overly harsh. I think the problem here is that the app is not made for users like yourself. Power users that already know the ins and outs of BlackBerry are likely not the target here. I believe the main thrust of this application are users new to BlackBerry and new to smartphones.

You’re right – someone that knew all the BlackBerry blogs and software sites didn’t need this new app. However, there are likely a very large number of users that don’t know about Handango, the various BlackBerry blogs, and the different BlackBerry forums. For these new users, this will be a good place for them to get started on exploring the vast additional functionality that BlackBerry has to offer that doesn’t come straight out of the box.

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]]> By: Deacon http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22636 Deacon Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:25:50 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22636 I found a way to filter for free apps: click on the top downloads button. Every single one of the top 25 downloads is a free app. I predict it will stay that way for a while too, which should serve as a lesson to RIM about their pricing policy. Good article ronen. I for one was impressed by the app, but only because my expectations were so low. I found a way to filter for free apps: click on the top downloads button. Every single one of the top 25 downloads is a free app. I predict it will stay that way for a while too, which should serve as a lesson to RIM about their pricing policy.

Good article ronen. I for one was impressed by the app, but only because my expectations were so low.

]]> By: papped http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22631 papped Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:35:40 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22631 "I am not saying these are all good ideas since they are off the top of my head but they are NEW ideas. This is just a bad regurgitation of mobile.blackberry.com into a BlackBerry application." Wow, that's insanely harsh... mobile.blackberry.com was terrible... “I am not saying these are all good ideas since they are off the top of my head but they are NEW ideas. This is just a bad regurgitation of mobile.blackberry.com into a BlackBerry application.”

Wow, that’s insanely harsh… mobile.blackberry.com was terrible…

]]> By: Ronen Halevy http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22626 Ronen Halevy Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:01:37 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22626 @John Let me clarify about the recommended links. Here is a recommended link http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/951/Salesforce%20Mobile It just redirects you to download the app world if you go to it from a desktop browser? How is your friend supposed to know it will only work from their BlackBerry if at all? About the app store altogether I was expecting to be impressed. Apple popularized the idea of an app store and now everybody is copying them. All RIM did is make a copy that has even less features than what they were copying... That is why I am unimpressed and what I was trying to stress in this article. They really had a chance to do something out of the box like create a one stop shop for BlackBerry applications. They don't even have a desktop counterpart for the App World. They could have easily let you select all of the applications you wish to look into on your computer (just like iTunes) and then set them to download to your phone. The idea of an on device store is to pick up a app very quick not to browse. Who is going to browse through 1,000 applications on a 3 inch screen? Something innovative would be: - create a BlackBerry currency or points for apps - innovate with a social network for BlackBerrys tied around the store - have a questionnaire that recommends apps according to similar users I am not saying these are all good ideas since they are off the top of my head but they are NEW ideas. This is just a bad regurgitation of mobile.blackberry.com into a BlackBerry application. @John
Let me clarify about the recommended links. Here is a recommended link
http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/951/Salesforce%20Mobile
It just redirects you to download the app world if you go to it from a desktop browser? How is your friend supposed to know it will only work from their BlackBerry if at all?

About the app store altogether I was expecting to be impressed. Apple popularized the idea of an app store and now everybody is copying them. All RIM did is make a copy that has even less features than what they were copying… That is why I am unimpressed and what I was trying to stress in this article.

They really had a chance to do something out of the box like create a one stop shop for BlackBerry applications. They don’t even have a desktop counterpart for the App World. They could have easily let you select all of the applications you wish to look into on your computer (just like iTunes) and then set them to download to your phone. The idea of an on device store is to pick up a app very quick not to browse. Who is going to browse through 1,000 applications on a 3 inch screen?

Something innovative would be:
- create a BlackBerry currency or points for apps
- innovate with a social network for BlackBerrys tied around the store
- have a questionnaire that recommends apps according to similar users

I am not saying these are all good ideas since they are off the top of my head but they are NEW ideas. This is just a bad regurgitation of mobile.blackberry.com into a BlackBerry application.

]]> By: Luis Merlos http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22625 Luis Merlos Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:40:31 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22625 that is not the point that he was trying to make, he was giving his on personal opinion about it and I see why, there are quite a few things on there that RIM needs to address and with articles such as this is the only way RIM listens for the most part. that is not the point that he was trying to make, he was giving his on personal opinion about it and I see why, there are quite a few things on there that RIM needs to address and with articles such as this is the only way RIM listens for the most part.

]]> By: Luis Merlos http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22624 Luis Merlos Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:38:29 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22624 yeah I do hate that is misleading, they got ways to go on it if they expect to compete with iphone but so far it has worked pretty good on my side. yeah I do hate that is misleading, they got ways to go on it if they expect to compete with iphone but so far it has worked pretty good on my side.

]]> By: Donnie http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22623 Donnie Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:15:21 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22623 Actually I saw a couple apps where there were buttons to download free trial and also a button to purchase. So it looks like some of them have them and some of them dont. Actually I saw a couple apps where there were buttons to download free trial and also a button to purchase. So it looks like some of them have them and some of them dont.

]]> By: john http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22622 john Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:14:34 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22622 dude what are you talking about? all the reccomend links i have sent works just fine! and there are a few try before you buy options i have found! i spent an hour with app world and found this. you wrote a whole review and didnt. someone needs to take away ur keyboard and give it back when u know what your talking about. what did u excpect its and app store they sell apps there! what could possibly be "revaloutionary" about it? dude what are you talking about? all the reccomend links i have sent works just fine! and there are a few try before you buy options i have found! i spent an hour with app world and found this. you wrote a whole review and didnt. someone needs to take away ur keyboard and give it back when u know what your talking about. what did u excpect its and app store they sell apps there! what could possibly be “revaloutionary” about it?

]]> By: scuebydue http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22621 scuebydue Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:57:56 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22621 I think its ridiculus that I've tried to access the app 30 times and only once it connected, but upon selecting an app, it couldn't find the appworld server. I think its ridiculus that I’ve tried to access the app 30 times and only once it connected, but upon selecting an app, it couldn’t find the appworld server.

]]> By: n8d http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22620 n8d Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:52:56 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22620 You're crazy. If you were referring to me that is. :-) I don't have any interest in any application store at all, I simply call it how I see it. You’re crazy. If you were referring to me that is. :-)
I don’t have any interest in any application store at all, I simply call it how I see it.

]]> By: papped http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22619 papped Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:48:35 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22619 Call me crazy but I smell some people weighing in on how bad appworld is in order to maintain revenue in their current stores... Call me crazy but I smell some people weighing in on how bad appworld is in order to maintain revenue in their current stores…

]]> By: webchetan http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22618 webchetan Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:19:57 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22618 Correct Ron - Its everyone's way of looking at it. Some would like it and some would not. Like for example some like iPhones (I love Blackberry) and like Blackberry. So everyone things different. You didn't like the AppWorld so much, you have every right not too :) I am enjoying it and I am sure slowly the apps would add and new features would come. As per the launch, its fantastic for me :) Correct Ron – Its everyone’s way of looking at it. Some would like it and some would not. Like for example some like iPhones (I love Blackberry) and like Blackberry. So everyone things different. You didn’t like the AppWorld so much, you have every right not too :)

I am enjoying it and I am sure slowly the apps would add and new features would come. As per the launch, its fantastic for me :)

]]> By: Blackberry Beard http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22617 Blackberry Beard Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:46:12 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22617 I agree with Ronen. C R A P. On my VZW 8330 I had to wait up to 15 minutes for the pictures to load...all the while seeing hourglass after hourglass. Since there are no product descriptions I had to use the blackberry in one hand while I googled the App name on my desktop computer to see what it is. Sheesh. I agree with Ronen. C R A P. On my VZW 8330 I had to wait up to 15 minutes for the pictures to load…all the while seeing hourglass after hourglass.

Since there are no product descriptions I had to use the blackberry in one hand while I googled the App name on my desktop computer to see what it is. Sheesh.

]]> By: n8d http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22615 n8d Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:21:11 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22615 I agree. App is Crap!!! They should have just bought out BerryStore and built on what they already have. Everyones getting a hard-on just because it's "Officially BlackBerrys App Store". Just another in the recent long line of F-A-I-L from RIM. Developers, go over to this link and submit your apps to BerryStore.... http://berrystore.com/developers I agree. App is Crap!!!
They should have just bought out BerryStore and built on what they already have.
Everyones getting a hard-on just because it’s “Officially BlackBerrys App Store”.
Just another in the recent long line of F-A-I-L from RIM.
Developers, go over to this link and submit your apps to BerryStore….
http://berrystore.com/developers

]]> By: Ronen Halevy http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22613 Ronen Halevy Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:11:30 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22613 Telemap navigator listed as free but is a trial Trimble outdoors ditto pMDsoft Flipside mp3 usually has trial but not in store Fitdeck mobile ditto Quicklaunch ditto if I remember correctly In short free is not free but is free but does have trials and does not. Seems like RIM wrongly left it in the developers hands... Telemap navigator listed as free but is a trial
Trimble outdoors ditto
pMDsoft

Flipside mp3 usually has trial but not in store
Fitdeck mobile ditto
Quicklaunch ditto if I remember correctly

In short free is not free but is free but does have trials and does not. Seems like RIM wrongly left it in the developers hands…

]]> By: nb http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22611 nb Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:06:45 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22611 The UK "purpose built for Vodafone" Storm is definitely the orphan of the family. Not only Blackberry's own App World doesn't work, none of the internet radios do either. With iPhone 3.0, HTC Magic and Pre coming out, looks like a good time to move on. Coffin's gradually being sealed! Poor Storm. The UK “purpose built for Vodafone” Storm is definitely the orphan of the family. Not only Blackberry’s own App World doesn’t work, none of the internet radios do either. With iPhone 3.0, HTC Magic and Pre coming out, looks like a good time to move on. Coffin’s gradually being sealed! Poor Storm.

]]> By: DavidB http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22606 DavidB Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:28:41 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22606 I'm not overly thrilled (there ARE after all already THREE fart apps on day one!), but I give RIM props for FINALLY getting the dam thing pushed out after promising it for what seems like forever. Not sure what the prob is Ronen, maybe you're not seeing the IM apps because you have them all installed already or something? Though that wouldn't make sense since it shows me Viigo and Slacker and I have both installed already. Shame I can't enter a review or rating since I didn't "buy" these free apps through App World. Not sure I'm liking the misleading "Free" price on trial apps. Like Par72 Golf, it says it's free and only when you scroll down for details do you find out you can only play the first hole of each of the three courses for free then you have to buy. RIM needs to find a more graceful way of presenting pay apps that offer a free trial version, presenting them as "Free" is misleading the user. And I said it in the first thread here, what's with all the "apps" that are nothing but home screen shortcut icons? Lame RIM, lame. Find a better way to denote right in the listings that something is nothing more than a shortcut. So...no Google apps...who is surprised? They have their own app store for Android right, so they would pay RIM to have their free apps listed in App World why??? I’m not overly thrilled (there ARE after all already THREE fart apps on day one!), but I give RIM props for FINALLY getting the dam thing pushed out after promising it for what seems like forever.

Not sure what the prob is Ronen, maybe you’re not seeing the IM apps because you have them all installed already or something? Though that wouldn’t make sense since it shows me Viigo and Slacker and I have both installed already. Shame I can’t enter a review or rating since I didn’t “buy” these free apps through App World.

Not sure I’m liking the misleading “Free” price on trial apps. Like Par72 Golf, it says it’s free and only when you scroll down for details do you find out you can only play the first hole of each of the three courses for free then you have to buy. RIM needs to find a more graceful way of presenting pay apps that offer a free trial version, presenting them as “Free” is misleading the user.

And I said it in the first thread here, what’s with all the “apps” that are nothing but home screen shortcut icons? Lame RIM, lame. Find a better way to denote right in the listings that something is nothing more than a shortcut.

So…no Google apps…who is surprised? They have their own app store for Android right, so they would pay RIM to have their free apps listed in App World why???

]]> By: MikeG http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22605 MikeG Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:12:36 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22605 And all Curve/Bold users on Orange in the UK are completely locked out of the store ... not even install works. Go figure. And all Curve/Bold users on Orange in the UK are completely locked out of the store … not even install works. Go figure.

]]> By: rymo http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22600 rymo Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:53:53 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22600 Free trials are app-by-app, presumably determined by the publisher. Example: "REXconnect" shows "Download Trial" and "Purchase" buttons on my T-Mobile 8900. Free trials are app-by-app, presumably determined by the publisher. Example: “REXconnect” shows “Download Trial” and “Purchase” buttons on my T-Mobile 8900.

]]> By: Wojtas http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22599 Wojtas Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:53:39 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22599 I havnt :D I havnt :D

]]> By: scuebydue http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22597 scuebydue Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:39:21 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22597 Is anyone else having the issue where it says that you can't connect to the App World Server?? Is anyone else having the issue where it says that you can’t connect to the App World Server??

]]> By: Ronen Halevy http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22596 Ronen Halevy Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:35:36 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/04/01/unimpressed-by-the-blackberry-app-world-welcome-to-the-club/#comment-22596 Seriously guys I am just as big a blackberry fan as you are but I like to call a spade a spade. Practically everything in the new app world is something you could do before. So why would I be impressed? Have you ever tried handango's inhand application? Its the same thing as the app world just not as pretty. I was not waiting for months for a pretty interface... Also not having free trials at least docks it a point in my book. That along with the lack of ability to sort or filter your selections is just unimpressive. RIM essentially regurgitated exactly what handango, mobihand, berrystore and others have already done. At least some of those had free trials. Oh and the fact that the App store is inaccessable from your PC is just another oversight by RIM. Seriously guys I am just as big a blackberry fan as you are but I like to call a spade a spade.
Practically everything in the new app world is something you could do before. So why would I be impressed?
Have you ever tried handango’s inhand application? Its the same thing as the app world just not as pretty. I was not waiting for months for a pretty interface…
Also not having free trials at least docks it a point in my book. That along with the lack of ability to sort or filter your selections is just unimpressive.
RIM essentially regurgitated exactly what handango, mobihand, berrystore and others have already done. At least some of those had free trials.
Oh and the fact that the App store is inaccessable from your PC is just another oversight by RIM.

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