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	<title>Comments on: The Storm comes to Brazil. I am not thrilled.</title>
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		<title>By: jryker</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2009/03/09/the-storm-comes-to-brazil-i-am-not-thrilled/comment-page-1/#comment-21468</link>
		<dc:creator>jryker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luciano -
What firmware version and languages put out are dictated by the carrier. RIM is more the happy to provide newer version and languages. The carrier determines what they want and how it is put out the public. You are going after the wrong entity here.
Additionally you’re not recognizing that the Storm has a tremendous amount of attention behind it and the flip side is that issues get amplified. All BlackBerry® devices come with their own issues. When you put a massive marketing campaign behind a device things get put under the microscope more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luciano -<br />
What firmware version and languages put out are dictated by the carrier. RIM is more the happy to provide newer version and languages. The carrier determines what they want and how it is put out the public. You are going after the wrong entity here.<br />
Additionally you’re not recognizing that the Storm has a tremendous amount of attention behind it and the flip side is that issues get amplified. All BlackBerry® devices come with their own issues. When you put a massive marketing campaign behind a device things get put under the microscope more often.</p>
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		<title>By: automan69</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2009/03/09/the-storm-comes-to-brazil-i-am-not-thrilled/comment-page-1/#comment-21421</link>
		<dc:creator>automan69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omg what rubish, who cares what country RIM sells they BlackBerries. They are ONLY two things in my life that will be touchable,&quot; MY WIFE&quot; and she is nodding her head ...lol and my GPS. I will NEVER own the storm! This is my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omg what rubish, who cares what country RIM sells they BlackBerries. They are ONLY two things in my life that will be touchable,&#8221; MY WIFE&#8221; and she is nodding her head &#8230;lol and my GPS. I will NEVER own the storm! This is my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Luciano</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2009/03/09/the-storm-comes-to-brazil-i-am-not-thrilled/comment-page-1/#comment-21411</link>
		<dc:creator>Luciano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DavidB, I think you almost have a point. All BlackBerry models benefit from the occasional firmware upgrade, right, but the Storm is an extreme case. I&#039;ve never seen a phone receive so many complaints from the user base. That makes the Storm an extraordinary case that warrants an extraordinary level of concern.

@Ted and James, thanks for the input. Now that you know the way, don&#039;t be a stranger. :-)

@grayzweb: You advocate the use of a supposedly more complex device that requires a firmware upgrade once in a while, and that such practice is OK. You missed one important point, though: you speak English! So do I, and that&#039;s why I describe myself as &quot;insensitive&quot; in the article. I know my way to BerryReview, to BBForums and many other places, and I can understand every piece of official and unofficial information that is shared on the internets. But what is made of people who don&#039;t speak English? The Brazilian carriers don&#039;t give any information at all about it, most people are not even familiar with the concept of upgrading firmware. One carrier provides a link hidden deep somewhere, and the destination is written entirely in English. Few people will find the link, and most who do will not be able to use it.

Besides, frankly, the idea that being more complex and high maintenance is OK is utter rubbish. No one but you supports that notion, not even the phone hardware companies (e.g. RIM) themselves.

In fact, there is an underlying issue here that has been screaming inside my head for a while: RIM has been taking too much of a sideways, &quot;underground&quot; approach to the way they dispense these firmware upgrades to us instead of being aboveboard and actually useful. This is the true root of all these problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DavidB, I think you almost have a point. All BlackBerry models benefit from the occasional firmware upgrade, right, but the Storm is an extreme case. I&#8217;ve never seen a phone receive so many complaints from the user base. That makes the Storm an extraordinary case that warrants an extraordinary level of concern.</p>
<p>@Ted and James, thanks for the input. Now that you know the way, don&#8217;t be a stranger. <img src='http://www.berryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@grayzweb: You advocate the use of a supposedly more complex device that requires a firmware upgrade once in a while, and that such practice is OK. You missed one important point, though: you speak English! So do I, and that&#8217;s why I describe myself as &#8220;insensitive&#8221; in the article. I know my way to BerryReview, to BBForums and many other places, and I can understand every piece of official and unofficial information that is shared on the internets. But what is made of people who don&#8217;t speak English? The Brazilian carriers don&#8217;t give any information at all about it, most people are not even familiar with the concept of upgrading firmware. One carrier provides a link hidden deep somewhere, and the destination is written entirely in English. Few people will find the link, and most who do will not be able to use it.</p>
<p>Besides, frankly, the idea that being more complex and high maintenance is OK is utter rubbish. No one but you supports that notion, not even the phone hardware companies (e.g. RIM) themselves.</p>
<p>In fact, there is an underlying issue here that has been screaming inside my head for a while: RIM has been taking too much of a sideways, &#8220;underground&#8221; approach to the way they dispense these firmware upgrades to us instead of being aboveboard and actually useful. This is the true root of all these problems.</p>
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		<title>By: james vella</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2009/03/09/the-storm-comes-to-brazil-i-am-not-thrilled/comment-page-1/#comment-21402</link>
		<dc:creator>james vella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hardly. there&#039;s some good arguments in there. Maybe it&#039;s not that balanced but it levels some good criticisms at RIMs strategy and the way it&#039;s addressing it&#039;s customer base both new customers and loyal. Yes it&#039;s a recession but there&#039;s some things RIM shouldn&#039;t compromise on. I may still buy a Storm but I&#039;ll probably advise my less tech savvy friends and family not to having read this. if you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t read the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hardly. there&#8217;s some good arguments in there. Maybe it&#8217;s not that balanced but it levels some good criticisms at RIMs strategy and the way it&#8217;s addressing it&#8217;s customer base both new customers and loyal. Yes it&#8217;s a recession but there&#8217;s some things RIM shouldn&#8217;t compromise on. I may still buy a Storm but I&#8217;ll probably advise my less tech savvy friends and family not to having read this. if you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t read the article.</p>
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		<title>By: grayzweb</title>
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		<dc:creator>grayzweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this is a Storm bash, or a BlackBerry bash!
  Even .65 that was released with the Storm was not that bad.  
  The reason there were so many people complaining about the Storm in the forums are for 2 main reasons from what I can tell.
  #1  Alot of people switched from the physical keyboards of other BlackBerries to this touchscreen.  (Including Me)  It was a hard learning curve!  Blackberry users were so used to how fast they were able to do things on their former devices, that using a touchscreen was hard to get used to.  Very frustrating. -- But after the long learning curve and the introduction of more 3rd party apps , it is just as capable.  I still have my Curve 8330 that sits in my drawer.  I love my Storm MUCH more than I could ever love my Curve again.  Never thought I would say that in the beginning. (learning curve)           :)
  
  #2  ALOT of brand new Blackberry users picked up the device.
  Many people came from &quot;dumb&quot; phones to the world of Blackberry.
  The Blackberry is NOT a simple phone like an iphone!!  
 It is a technical phone that is much more capable than any iphone or a &quot;regular&quot; cell phone.
 Blackberry usrs NEED to be able to install 3rd party applications, updates, have a PC at home.  The blackberry and the use of a personal computer go hand in hand.
 There are many Storm users who just switched to a Storm because the iphone was not offered on their carrier, and they thought  a Storm was like an iphone.  Wrong!  It is not.  It is a Blackberry!!

 3rd party apps have been coming out now like crazy!  The Storm has only been out for 3 1/2 months.  It just keeps getting better, and better.  
 If your the type who does not want to &quot;have to&quot; download updates and applications for your &quot;phone&quot;, then you don&#039;t need a Blackberry period!
 Go get a razr or an iphone, or something simple, and stop complaining that the blackberry is not up to your standards.

 Yea, it seemed that there were alot of people complaining about the Storm.  What percentage of the people that loudly complained vs. people who had the Storm that didn&#039;t?
 My point is that just because a certain percentage of people complained very loudly, it doesn&#039;t reflect everybody.
  Sorry if I&#039;m ranting, but if you don&#039;t like the Storm, don&#039;t buy the Storm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is a Storm bash, or a BlackBerry bash!<br />
  Even .65 that was released with the Storm was not that bad.<br />
  The reason there were so many people complaining about the Storm in the forums are for 2 main reasons from what I can tell.<br />
  #1  Alot of people switched from the physical keyboards of other BlackBerries to this touchscreen.  (Including Me)  It was a hard learning curve!  Blackberry users were so used to how fast they were able to do things on their former devices, that using a touchscreen was hard to get used to.  Very frustrating. &#8212; But after the long learning curve and the introduction of more 3rd party apps , it is just as capable.  I still have my Curve 8330 that sits in my drawer.  I love my Storm MUCH more than I could ever love my Curve again.  Never thought I would say that in the beginning. (learning curve)           <img src='http://www.berryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>  #2  ALOT of brand new Blackberry users picked up the device.<br />
  Many people came from &#8220;dumb&#8221; phones to the world of Blackberry.<br />
  The Blackberry is NOT a simple phone like an iphone!!<br />
 It is a technical phone that is much more capable than any iphone or a &#8220;regular&#8221; cell phone.<br />
 Blackberry usrs NEED to be able to install 3rd party applications, updates, have a PC at home.  The blackberry and the use of a personal computer go hand in hand.<br />
 There are many Storm users who just switched to a Storm because the iphone was not offered on their carrier, and they thought  a Storm was like an iphone.  Wrong!  It is not.  It is a Blackberry!!</p>
<p> 3rd party apps have been coming out now like crazy!  The Storm has only been out for 3 1/2 months.  It just keeps getting better, and better.<br />
 If your the type who does not want to &#8220;have to&#8221; download updates and applications for your &#8220;phone&#8221;, then you don&#8217;t need a Blackberry period!<br />
 Go get a razr or an iphone, or something simple, and stop complaining that the blackberry is not up to your standards.</p>
<p> Yea, it seemed that there were alot of people complaining about the Storm.  What percentage of the people that loudly complained vs. people who had the Storm that didn&#8217;t?<br />
 My point is that just because a certain percentage of people complained very loudly, it doesn&#8217;t reflect everybody.<br />
  Sorry if I&#8217;m ranting, but if you don&#8217;t like the Storm, don&#8217;t buy the Storm.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lot of pointless diatribe.
If you don&#039;t like it , don&#039;t buy it!
I personally don&#039;t like Ford cars but I won&#039;t waste my time writing about it , I just buy another brand.
Get a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lot of pointless diatribe.<br />
If you don&#8217;t like it , don&#8217;t buy it!<br />
I personally don&#8217;t like Ford cars but I won&#8217;t waste my time writing about it , I just buy another brand.<br />
Get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: BBGun</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2009/03/09/the-storm-comes-to-brazil-i-am-not-thrilled/comment-page-1/#comment-21390</link>
		<dc:creator>BBGun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John S., I have to disagree...

I&#039;ve had a Bold on the Rogers Network in Canada since LONG before AT&amp;T first launched the Bold and I&#039;ve never had any problems whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John S., I have to disagree&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a Bold on the Rogers Network in Canada since LONG before AT&amp;T first launched the Bold and I&#8217;ve never had any problems whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: John S.</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2009/03/09/the-storm-comes-to-brazil-i-am-not-thrilled/comment-page-1/#comment-21388</link>
		<dc:creator>John S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would anyone care to agree that the bold at&amp;t release happens to be the only stable bold out there in comparison to other carriers? Was it worth the wait?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would anyone care to agree that the bold at&amp;t release happens to be the only stable bold out there in comparison to other carriers? Was it worth the wait?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2009/03/09/the-storm-comes-to-brazil-i-am-not-thrilled/comment-page-1/#comment-21387</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luciano:
Entertaining read. However, I don&#039;t think the issue is a fair indictment of the Storm. Yes the Storm has its issues, hell I&#039;m typing this on my Storm and boy is it a pain. BUT, having also used the &quot;others&quot;, in our world of accepting mediocrity the Storm is not awful. This REALLY has nothing to do with the Storm specifically, it is across the board on ALL current phones. Every BlackBerry smartphone released in the past year or so is massively deficient on the OS/firmware front. Pearl Flip, Bold, Javelin, Storm, Nextel Curve, on and on. Firmwares both released and leaked and are so buggy and in many cases have made phones LESS usable! It is really unfair to characterize this as a Storm problem. 

I think RIM recognized the threat of iPhone and HTC and gPhone and said &quot;oh shxt&quot; and rushed some underdeveloped hardware out the door with a bandaided OS on them. It is apparent to me looking in from outside that RIM hasn&#039;t seen the problem yet and is still just patching holes in the dike rather then building a better one. OS 4.x needs to be kicked to the curb and the 5.x needs to be a complete and total paRadigm change for RIM. It is very hard to make a massive overhaul such as the BlackBerry OS needs but Nokia and Apple and Google and even Microsoft are moving at light speed compared to the snails pace of RIM OS development. If they want to compete, if they want to be relevant in the smartphone market of tomorrow, they can no longer rest on their corporate laurels and their dominance in mobile push email. Others can and will beat them at the email game and without that as their ace in he hole the rest of what BB OS does has already been surpassed by practically everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luciano:<br />
Entertaining read. However, I don&#8217;t think the issue is a fair indictment of the Storm. Yes the Storm has its issues, hell I&#8217;m typing this on my Storm and boy is it a pain. BUT, having also used the &#8220;others&#8221;, in our world of accepting mediocrity the Storm is not awful. This REALLY has nothing to do with the Storm specifically, it is across the board on ALL current phones. Every BlackBerry smartphone released in the past year or so is massively deficient on the OS/firmware front. Pearl Flip, Bold, Javelin, Storm, Nextel Curve, on and on. Firmwares both released and leaked and are so buggy and in many cases have made phones LESS usable! It is really unfair to characterize this as a Storm problem. </p>
<p>I think RIM recognized the threat of iPhone and HTC and gPhone and said &#8220;oh shxt&#8221; and rushed some underdeveloped hardware out the door with a bandaided OS on them. It is apparent to me looking in from outside that RIM hasn&#8217;t seen the problem yet and is still just patching holes in the dike rather then building a better one. OS 4.x needs to be kicked to the curb and the 5.x needs to be a complete and total paRadigm change for RIM. It is very hard to make a massive overhaul such as the BlackBerry OS needs but Nokia and Apple and Google and even Microsoft are moving at light speed compared to the snails pace of RIM OS development. If they want to compete, if they want to be relevant in the smartphone market of tomorrow, they can no longer rest on their corporate laurels and their dominance in mobile push email. Others can and will beat them at the email game and without that as their ace in he hole the rest of what BB OS does has already been surpassed by practically everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: [号外] 黑莓 Storm 即将在巴西上市 at KwBerry&#124;开胃莓</title>
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		<dc:creator>[号外] 黑莓 Storm 即将在巴西上市 at KwBerry&#124;开胃莓</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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