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29 Comments to “CRAZY! Furious Gold Lets You Change & Clone A BlackBerrys IMEI, PIN, or ESN Along With Unlocking It!”

  1. Posted by: pwn3D
    February 18, 2009 at 1:30 pm EST

    RIM legal to be unleashed shortly, I can feel it. lol

  2. Posted by: stranjal7
    February 18, 2009 at 1:32 pm EST

    So Im guessing that this is not free.

  3. Posted by: pwn3D
    February 18, 2009 at 1:36 pm EST

    PS: Also kinda disappointed to actually find this posted here really…I’m far from a stickler for “laws” and “rules” but when you are talking cloning PIN and IMEI’s etc..etc, take it under consideration how you would feel if I cloned your PIN and basically screwed all your devices up.

    Considering the sheer amnt of people that post their PINS on forums and such a PIN is not hard to get at all and their are already been reports on forums of users PINS and BIS services being pooched from the “Unbrander” and various other EU tools that were never meant for public consumption.

    But that’s just me and my opinion and ya know what they say about those ;)

    /steps off soapbox and prepares for possible flamers

  4. Posted by: Ronen Halevy
    February 18, 2009 at 1:46 pm EST

    @pwn3D
    My mind is still reeling from this! We mentioned it because this is not some hidden RIM tool that should never have been released. This is a commercial product that other companies are reselling! Its totally available to the public.

    I realize that there are SERIOUS security ramifications by being able to clone a PIN and IMEI. On the other hand not mentioning a security concern when it exists is just like sticking your head in the ground and hoping it will go away.

    I mentioned it because this opens up the BlackBerry to a slew of problems since PIN numbers are readily available for public consumption. I can only imagine what else can be done with this information.

    The cats out of the bag… Pandoras box has been opened… We are just pointing it out since everybody else seems to have missed it.

  5. Posted by: pwn3D
    February 18, 2009 at 1:56 pm EST

    I understand where you are coming from Ronen, expose the problem and force a fix from acknowledgment of it.

    And while I can’t say for certain (much like yourself) what this is *exactly*, I can say that the functions of this shall we say GUI? Are the exact of the MMLMultiLoader with the unlock, debranding etc..etc functionality much like how MCP has the ability to load the MMLMultiLoader as well, if you have obtained it.

    So way I see it, RIM will be going after these folks if possible as they don’t seem to be US or Canadian based on the sole fact that this GUI appears to be made up of components from the MMLMultiLoader tool.

  6. Posted by: sdfsdf
    February 18, 2009 at 2:13 pm EST

    I think you should have been responsible and sent this to RIM first to get their response before posting it. I love my BB and I just don’t want to get hacked* by a bunch of Russian script kiddies.

  7. Posted by: oracle
    February 18, 2009 at 3:23 pm EST

    in indonesia now is very popular by cloning the pin and be careful dont give your pin to someone you dont know

  8. Posted by: Mipacho
    February 18, 2009 at 4:36 pm EST

    Here’s a discussion of what happened to me after my BB Pin got cloned:

    http://forums.crackberry.com/f83/duplicate-pins-156359/

  9. Posted by: Andy
    February 18, 2009 at 9:51 pm EST

    This is a phone cloning tool and it is illegal (criminal offense) in most countries. If you use this, expect a visit from the police.

    I don’t think you should have published this.

  10. Posted by: Luciano
    February 18, 2009 at 10:08 pm EST

    This is a disaster. Security by obscurity, that’s what RIM has been selling us.

    Very drastic changes will be necessary in upcoming models lest RIM will lose even more credibility. I expect this kind of screwup from the iPhone, not from the BlackBerry.

  11. Posted by: BB
    February 19, 2009 at 3:12 am EST

    Once RIM’s infrastructure detects a duplicate PIN and IMEI you get kicked off anyway, so while you could change your PIN and IMEI to mine, you can’t do anything with it and there are no implications for me – so there is no risk at all.

    Take your tinfoil hats off.

  12. Posted by: Michael
    February 19, 2009 at 10:23 am EST

    Yet for some reason I can’t seem to find that software anywhere on their site.

  13. Posted by: Richard Heratland
    February 19, 2009 at 1:20 pm EST

    This was very much in poor taste Ronen. You are giving ideas to people who will potentially break the law due to seeing this. I agree its out there, but at the end of the day its a lot harder to find some site in china that sells this as opposed to berryreview thats read everyday by people. This was in very bad taste. never should have been published. this is a very bad day for you guys….

  14. Posted by: Sith_Apprentice
    February 19, 2009 at 11:26 pm EST

    The Cloning tool doesnt work for BBs. There is another piece of information (3 total) that is needed to authenticate to the NOC. If your phone hasnt been “seen” by any network, it is not because of the RIM NOC itself. The NOC will ONLY prevent you from getting BB data, not voice/carrier data. I have gone very high up in RIM with this information months before this story was posted. I have been to several facilities where this was demonstrated. It is not security by obscurity, there are many other factors that are used for security.

  15. Posted by: Sith_Apprentice
    February 19, 2009 at 11:56 pm EST

    IMEI cloning can still be done, but the NOC itself will reject the data. As to those in SE Asia with BBs unable to be registered, this is likely blacklisted PINs or devices that are reported stolen. When RIM blacklists a PIN you can still use carrier data (much like the “cloned” device) but you wont get BB data. The hard coded value can be viewed by users by certain tools, but cannot be changed. There are many other tools that RIM has that allow this to be written once during the construction process.

  16. Posted by: Victor
    February 20, 2009 at 5:24 am EST

    we here in indonesia sells 2 types of blackberry. The one with pin and imei or the one without(blocked or came without pin or imei) which is sold less that 50% retail price apparently its a black market product. So if u didnt have the money and u needed a pin and imei, phone shops here will charge u about USD 150.00 to give u a pin and imei for your handset regardless its blocked or locked.Funny thing is what bout the person that orignaly bought the phone with the pin and imei? who do they go to ? and what i heard is u cannot have the same pin and imei in the blackberry server as they will be both blocked by blackberry

  17. Posted by: Sith_Apprentice
    February 20, 2009 at 6:49 am EST

    Only the second device is disabled on the NOC. I have cloned my devices, both active and older, and kept them active for over 60 days. The second device never acquired a connection.