Comments on: Verizon’s Open Network Is A Gated Community http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/ BlackBerry News and Reviews You Can Use Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:32:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sovak75 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18228 sovak75 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:50:56 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18228 well in a way they are, keeping the network running the way it should. AT&T's network sucks, and it might be better if more of the devices on it were tested to make sure they did not harm the network *shrug* well in a way they are, keeping the network running the way it should. AT&T’s network sucks, and it might be better if more of the devices on it were tested to make sure they did not harm the network *shrug*

]]> By: Ronen Halevy http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18215 Ronen Halevy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:27:32 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18215 Makes you wonder how GSM users just swap out SIM cards all over the world by millions of people... They almost make it sound like they are doing it for your own good. Makes you wonder how GSM users just swap out SIM cards all over the world by millions of people…
They almost make it sound like they are doing it for your own good.

]]> By: sovak75 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18214 sovak75 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:26:10 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18214 If they don't work it's because they require ASSISTED GPS or don't use true GPS at all. Anything that just uses or will work by just using the GPS chip work just fine now. If they don’t work it’s because they require ASSISTED GPS or don’t use true GPS at all. Anything that just uses or will work by just using the GPS chip work just fine now.

]]> By: sovak75 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18213 sovak75 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:24:12 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18213 5. Why does a device have to pass Verizon Wireless’ testing and comply with Verizon Wireless’ technical requirements? The testing is the only way to determine that the device, once activated, won't harm or otherwise interfere with the Verizon Wireless network. The test process will be intentionally minimalistic for this purpose, so testing won't determine if the device actually works or works without error. Additionally, the testing will not make any determination as to call quality or other functionality of such device. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. 5. Why does a device have to pass Verizon Wireless’ testing and comply with Verizon Wireless’ technical requirements?
The testing is the only way to determine that the device, once activated, won’t harm or otherwise interfere with the Verizon Wireless network. The test process will be intentionally minimalistic for this purpose, so testing won’t determine if the device actually works or works without error. Additionally, the testing will not make any determination as to call quality or other functionality of such device.

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

]]> By: Ben Pike http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18207 Ben Pike Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:28:14 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18207 on my 8130 (Pearl) BB Maps GPS works perfectly... as far as other applications? I haven't had much luck. Not sure if that's just a developer issue though... on my 8130 (Pearl) BB Maps GPS works perfectly… as far as other applications? I haven’t had much luck. Not sure if that’s just a developer issue though…

]]> By: The One http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18205 The One Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:19:40 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18205 @Ronen, Yes they do, except MyPoint, because they are also currently working on a Storm version. If anything doesn't work yet, it's not the storm's fault. I have used blackberry maps, weatherbug with gps, Garmin, telenav, Nav4all, Blip, and a few others. @Ronen,

Yes they do, except MyPoint, because they are also currently working on a Storm version. If anything doesn’t work yet, it’s not the storm’s fault. I have used blackberry maps, weatherbug with gps, Garmin, telenav, Nav4all, Blip, and a few others.

]]> By: Ronen Halevy http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18204 Ronen Halevy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:09:25 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18204 Just to clear things up for me. Do all 3rd Party GPS/LBS applications work other than Google Maps? For example MyPoynt, Live Search, etc... Just to clear things up for me. Do all 3rd Party GPS/LBS applications work other than Google Maps? For example MyPoynt, Live Search, etc…

]]> By: Ronen Halevy http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18202 Ronen Halevy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:05:17 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18202 My bad. I guess I did not do enough research. Google Maps not working is actually Google's fault. Due to the history I just assumed it was Verizon holding it back. Turns out that Google Maps first looks for AGPS and cant get a lock ever so gives up without trying the GPS. Will correct in the post My bad. I guess I did not do enough research. Google Maps not working is actually Google’s fault. Due to the history I just assumed it was Verizon holding it back. Turns out that Google Maps first looks for AGPS and cant get a lock ever so gives up without trying the GPS.
Will correct in the post

]]> By: Ben Pike http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18200 Ben Pike Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:51:52 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18200 Yeah, I have and I understand what you're getting at, but my understanding is that - that's a Google issue... I agree 100% that it should have never been locked down to begin with and that their new "Open" platform is nothing but a PR move... but to imply that GPS doesn't exist is miss-leading. The 9530 (Storm), 8330 (Curve), & 8130 (Pearl) all have perfectly functioning GPS's while (currently) only working with Blackberry Maps and VZNavigator - it still works. Yeah, I have and I understand what you’re getting at, but my understanding is that – that’s a Google issue…

I agree 100% that it should have never been locked down to begin with and that their new “Open” platform is nothing but a PR move… but to imply that GPS doesn’t exist is miss-leading. The 9530 (Storm), 8330 (Curve), & 8130 (Pearl) all have perfectly functioning GPS’s while (currently) only working with Blackberry Maps and VZNavigator – it still works.

]]> By: The One http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18199 The One Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:49:23 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18199 Not sure what you mean Ronen, the Storm has full gps access, and google maps just doesn't work with it, but I've tried at least 5 other programs that does work with it. Google has said they are making a compatible one to work with the Storm. So "They just had RIM take it out "? This is completely incorrect. Not sure what you mean Ronen, the Storm has full gps access, and google maps just doesn’t work with it, but I’ve tried at least 5 other programs that does work with it. Google has said they are making a compatible one to work with the Storm. So “They just had RIM take it out “? This is completely incorrect.

]]> By: Ronen Halevy http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18198 Ronen Halevy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:46:04 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18198 Ever try google maps? Ever try google maps?

]]> By: Ben Pike http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18197 Ben Pike Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:44:57 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2009/01/13/verizons-open-network-is-a-gated-community/#comment-18197 I dont get it? The 8330 has GPS and it's unlocked (since 4.5) - same with the 8130. I dont get it?

The 8330 has GPS and it’s unlocked (since 4.5) – same with the 8130.

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