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	<title>Comments on: OS 4.5 &amp; 4.6 Device Simulators Are Bundled In The JDE</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/07/24/os-45-46-device-simulators-are-bundled-in-the-jde/comment-page-1/#comment-10873</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of issues.  First, as Nathan says, they don&#039;t appear to work with the Plazmic 4.5 CDK.  Which is odd, since this version of the CDK is ONLY for OS 4.5.  Which means that it&#039;s impossible to test content (like themes) with a simulator though tool integration.  You need to do this manually.

Seems off that Plazmic would have links of the CDK page to simulators that aren&#039;t 4.5 and therefore don&#039;t work.

Second issue, I can&#039;t get this working under Vista.  When I run the simulator tool, it immediately crashes.  Not sure if this is a Vista issue or something else.

Third issue, some of us aren&#039;t developing in Java and don&#039;t need a whole JDK to have use for a simulator.  I like simulators to test software before loading on my device.  And, more recently, to test themes I&#039;m working on (see issue #1).  Since I don&#039;t have a Java dev environment on my machine, I don&#039;t meet to prerequisites.  Nor do I want to.  Maybe this is the reason for issue #2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of issues.  First, as Nathan says, they don&#8217;t appear to work with the Plazmic 4.5 CDK.  Which is odd, since this version of the CDK is ONLY for OS 4.5.  Which means that it&#8217;s impossible to test content (like themes) with a simulator though tool integration.  You need to do this manually.</p>
<p>Seems off that Plazmic would have links of the CDK page to simulators that aren&#8217;t 4.5 and therefore don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Second issue, I can&#8217;t get this working under Vista.  When I run the simulator tool, it immediately crashes.  Not sure if this is a Vista issue or something else.</p>
<p>Third issue, some of us aren&#8217;t developing in Java and don&#8217;t need a whole JDK to have use for a simulator.  I like simulators to test software before loading on my device.  And, more recently, to test themes I&#8217;m working on (see issue #1).  Since I don&#8217;t have a Java dev environment on my machine, I don&#8217;t meet to prerequisites.  Nor do I want to.  Maybe this is the reason for issue #2?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know why my Plazmic 4.5 would not be able to find the simulators installed with the JDE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know why my Plazmic 4.5 would not be able to find the simulators installed with the JDE?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronen Halevy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronen Halevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries Richard! I just got about 10 emails in the last week asking for the bold simulator. I wanted to let everybody know. 

I appreciate corrections. That&#039;s what comments are for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries Richard! I just got about 10 emails in the last week asking for the bold simulator. I wanted to let everybody know. </p>
<p>I appreciate corrections. That&#8217;s what comments are for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Puckett II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Puckett II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, simulators have been bundled with the JDE since before 4.3; I just didn&#039;t want to sound like a jerk and &quot;correct&quot; the same post twice in the same day.  :)  Figured it was water under the bridge.

It&#039;s cool; maybe if I got outside more I&#039;d have a life outside of mobile development.  :)

@DavidB Thunder is 4.7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, simulators have been bundled with the JDE since before 4.3; I just didn&#8217;t want to sound like a jerk and &#8220;correct&#8221; the same post twice in the same day.  <img src='http://www.berryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Figured it was water under the bridge.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s cool; maybe if I got outside more I&#8217;d have a life outside of mobile development.  <img src='http://www.berryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@DavidB Thunder is 4.7</p>
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		<title>By: Ronen Halevy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronen Halevy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jibi,
From what I understand they have been in the JDE for awhile but some people (like me) were used to downloading the simulators separately at this link:
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/downloads/simulators.jsp
I just wanted to make sure that everybody knew where to find them now.
I also tried the latest OS 4.6.0.92 simulator and did not notice much improvement but it looks good. I wonder why RIM did not include it in the Beta JDE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jibi,<br />
From what I understand they have been in the JDE for awhile but some people (like me) were used to downloading the simulators separately at this link:<br />
<a href="http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/downloads/simulators.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://na.blackberry.com/eng/developers/downloads/simulators.jsp</a><br />
I just wanted to make sure that everybody knew where to find them now.<br />
I also tried the latest OS 4.6.0.92 simulator and did not notice much improvement but it looks good. I wonder why RIM did not include it in the Beta JDE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BB World &#187; Rilasciato il simulatore di OS 4.5 e BOLD (4.6)</title>
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		<dc:creator>BB World &#187; Rilasciato il simulatore di OS 4.5 e BOLD (4.6)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So no Thunder simulator yet? Or that was 4.7?</description>
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		<title>By: Jibi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simulators have been included in the JDE packages for quite some time.  I honestly cannot recall an individual simulator package until the late 4.1 stages.  Once you start having actual carrier releases of the supported devices and/or the new OS&#039;s, the individual simulator packages will be made available.

Just to let you know, there *is* a 9000/4.6 simulator package that is not part of the JDE.  It&#039;s a tad over 80MB in size (a zip file) for OS 4.6.0.9x.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simulators have been included in the JDE packages for quite some time.  I honestly cannot recall an individual simulator package until the late 4.1 stages.  Once you start having actual carrier releases of the supported devices and/or the new OS&#8217;s, the individual simulator packages will be made available.</p>
<p>Just to let you know, there *is* a 9000/4.6 simulator package that is not part of the JDE.  It&#8217;s a tad over 80MB in size (a zip file) for OS 4.6.0.9x.</p>
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