16 Responses to “ Viigo BerryReview Editon - BlackBerry RSS Reader & More ” 16日的反應 “ viigo berryreview editon -黑莓R SS閱讀器及更多”

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  zipmob zipmob
  June 20th, 2008 23:36 2008年6月20日23時36分

  I am very happy with Viigo for its simplicity and I hope they continue to offer this version besides Tango.我很高興與viigo其簡單，我希望他們繼續提供此版本除了探戈。 I know Tango is still beta but, it is overloaded with so much stuff that I may not want, yet cannot be removed from the home screen.我知道探戈仍然是試用版，但，這是超載有這麼多的東西，我可能不希望，但不能刪除，從主屏幕。 Besides, it is crawling!此外，這是抓取！ I have given them feedback on these issues and I hope they will consider it.我已經給了他們的意見就這些問題，我希望他們會加以考慮。

  Feature creep is a disease with some software companies (hello Microsoft!) and I hope Viigo will not fall into this trap.功能蠕變是一種疾病，與一些軟件公司（您好微軟！ ） ，我希望viigo會不會落入這個陷阱。

  Needless to say, I downgraded back to Viigo from Tango.不用說，我降級回viigo從探戈。
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  Ron Franks 羅恩弗蘭克斯
  June 20th, 2008 23:48 2008年6月20日23時48分

  I have to agree on with you zipmob.我已同意就與你zipmob 。 If they would allow choosing which info you wanted on the Tango home screen, and removing what you don’t want, it would be a lot better.如果他們將允許選擇信息你想對探戈主屏幕，及消除什麼你不想，那將是一個好多了。 Better yet, only load the modules you need (like weather, podcasts, whatever) so the file size stays as small as possible.再好不過了，只有加載模塊，你需要（如天氣，播客，不管） ，使文件大小保持盡可能小。 Otherwise it might turn out like Yahoo Go.否則，它可能成為像雅虎Go 。
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  Mark Ruddock 馬克魯多克
  June 21st, 2008 07:10 2008年6月21日7時10分

  You both raise excellent points.你既提高優良點。

  I’d like to confirm that when Viigo ships in September, the home screen will be fully customizable.我想證實時， viigo船隻在9月，主屏幕將可完全自訂。 You will be able to add and/or subtract any services you want.您將可以添加和/或減去任何您想要的服務。 For the first beta, we decided to fix the services on the home screen for technical reasons.為第一個測試版，我們決定要修正的服務主屏幕技術方面的原因。

  We are also working hard on optimizing performance and memory utilization, so expect to see improvements in both of those as we move through the summer betas.我們也努力工作，優化性能和內存利用，所以期望看到的改善，這些都為我們提出通過夏季的試用版。

  Mark Ruddock馬克魯多克
  CEO行政總裁
  Viigo viigo
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  Luciano ES 盧西亞諾部
  June 21st, 2008 09:49 2008年6月21日9時49分

  I have a few questions.我有幾個問題。 Is Viigo developed on desktop 20-inch screens and are the developers reminded often that the program is supposed to run on 2-inch-screen devices?是viigo發達國家在桌面上20英寸的屏幕上，並且是發展商經常提醒，該程序是運行在2英寸的屏幕裝置？ I assume they aren’t.我猜想他們是不是。 Why else on Earth would text wrap around images in a program made for 2-inch screens?為什麼地球上，否則將文本捆繞的圖像在一個程序為2英寸的屏幕呢？ Does anyone around the Viigo Labs ask that kind of question?有沒有人左右viigo實驗室請問這樣的問題？ Do they get answers?難道他們得到答案呢？ Or have the Freerange people patented the separation of text and images each in their own horizontal space?或有freerange人的專利分離的文本和圖像，每個在自己的橫向空間？ I don’t know, the USPTO will let people patent just about anything, won’t it?我不知道，美國專利與商標局，將讓人們的專利只是什麼，會不會呢？
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  By the way, I think that top banner + the bottom bar + the navigation ribbon still leaves too much visible space for the content in the middle.由的方式，我認為頂部橫幅+底部酒吧+導航絲帶，仍有太多的有形空間的內容，在中東。 Could you please come up with something else and block the view a little more?可否請你出來的東西，否則和座的看法，多一點？ Since the “widescreen” format is all the rage these days, what the heck?由於“寬”的格式是所有憤怒，這些天來，什麼赫克？ Make that viewport even narrower and it will finally be 16×9 like a micro widescreen in the palm of our hands.作出這樣的視更窄，並最終將16 × 9像一個微型的寬屏在手掌我們的手中。
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  Mark Ruddock 馬克魯多克
  June 21st, 2008 13:36 2008年6月21日13時36分

  I agree WRT images and text wrapping.我同意wrt圖片和文字的包裝。

  This only happens on certain feeds (ie those specifically formatted by the publisher to display that way).這只是發生在某些飼料（即那些具體的格式由出版商以顯示這種方式） 。 Because the use the embedded BlackBerry browser control to display these, we don’t have as much control as we’d like in overriding these types of formatting decisions.因為使用嵌入式Blackberry瀏覽器控制，以顯示這些，我們並沒有最大程度地控制我們想要凌駕在這些類型的格式決定。 We’re currently exploring using our own control, thereby giving us much more freedom not only in how things are displayed, but in also providing shortcut keys (such as space bar page down) that have long been requested by our users.目前，我們正在探索用我們自己的控制，從而使我們更自由，不僅在如何的事情顯示，但在還提供了快捷鍵（如空間酒吧向下翻頁）表示，長久以來的要求，我們的用戶。

  WRT screen real-estate, yep, it’s always a challenge … I’d be curious to know what type of device you have? wrt屏幕，房地產， yep ，它始終是一個挑戰… …我願意很想知道什麼類型的設備你有嗎？

  Mark Ruddock馬克魯多克
  CEO行政總裁
  Viigo viigo
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  zipmob zipmob
  June 22nd, 2008 00:26 2008年6月22日0時26分

  On the subject of screen estate, I think the gray “breadcrumbs” bar is redundant.關於這一主題的屏幕地產，我認為灰色的“麵包”酒吧是多餘的。 It mirrors the title of the RSS feed anyway, so I don’t see what the purpose is for.它反映了標題的RSS饋送無論如何，所以我沒有看到什麼，目的是為。 Also, the “Viigo Beta” logo bar is too big taking up precious screen estate again.此外， “ viigo試用”標誌的酒吧過大，佔用了寶貴的屏幕地產再次。 I noticed on some feeds, on the left of the logo bar adverts are placed there.我注意到，在一些飼料，對左側的標誌酒吧的廣告是放在那裡。 I am assuming that some time down the line, that will have to be clickable to monetize content.我假設一段時間下來，路線，將必須點擊賺錢的內容。

  The fonts used for RSS feed list should also follow the system default setting as that is what the user is accustomed to.字體使用的RSS Feed的清單還應按照系統的默認設置，這是什麼用戶，是習慣。 Right now, it is way too small to read.而現在，這一點是遠遠太小，我無法閱讀。

  My biggest gripe would have to be the “Full Article” feature.最令我苦惱的，都必須“充分的文章”功能。 Some feeds span across a few pages.一些供稿橫跨幾頁。 Right now, we can’t access the next page unless we launch Browser.現在，我們不能進入下一頁，除非我們推出的瀏覽器。 IMHO I feel this should be addressed before making more fancier visuals or blobs that aren’t really useful. imho ，我覺得這應該加以解決，然後才作出更漂亮的視覺效果，或冒出的氣泡是不是真的有用。
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  Jeff 傑夫
  June 23rd, 2008 08:03 2008年6月23日8時03分

  Yes, some of us prefer FreeRange or Newsgator.是的，我們當中有些人寧願freerange或者NewsGator 。 Why?為什麼？ Because they are better products.因為他們是更好的產品。 Everything that Viigo (pre-Tango) does, the others do.一切viigo （前探戈） ，其他做的。 And the others do more.和其他人做更多的工作。 And they do it faster, easier, and with fewer errors.他們這樣做更快捷，更方便，和更少的錯誤。

  Some say that Viigo is great because of its simplicity.有人說， viigo是偉大的，因為它簡單。 The others (FreeRange, at least) keeps that simplicity, but offers more if you need it.其他（ freerange ，至少）一直認為，簡單，但提供更多的如果你需要它。

  Viigo fails to display some feeds that the others do without problems. viigo未能顯示的一些供稿，認為別人做的沒有任何問題。 Mark and I have e-mail about this, but I don’t get the sense that it’s going to be remedied in Tango (hint: if you come out with Tango and it doesn’t work with all the feeds that FreeRange can, then how can you claim to have a better product?).馬克和我電子郵件關於這一點，但我不得到責任感，它的要予以糾正，在探戈（提示：如果你出來，與探戈，並沒有工作，與所有的供稿freerange可以，那麼你如何能聲稱有一個更好的產品呢？ ） 。

  Viigo doesn’t render pages as well, as others have pointed out. viigo不提供的頁面，以及，正如其他人指出。 The rendering in FreeRange is cleaner.繪製在freerange是清潔。 And easier to read.和更容易閱讀。

  Viigo forces you to use the fonts THEY want you to use. viigo勢力您使用的字體他們希望您使用。 FreeRange lets me pick a font size that I’m comfortable with. freerange讓我選擇一個字體大小說，我很舒服。 Tango is still missing this.探戈是仍然下落不明。

  I could go on and on, but I find that pre-Tango to be a significantly inferior product to FreeRange (price aside, which is a valid point) and I’m always amazed when people praise it.我可以繼續和，但我覺得前探戈是一個顯著偽劣產品，以freerange （價格之外，這是一個有效的點）和我一直驚訝，當人們稱讚它。 As far as Tango, it’s adding podcasts, which is great.據探戈，它的加入播客，這是很大的。 But the other stuff it’s adding feels more like bloat.但其他的東西，它的加入感覺更象膨脹。 And, at least with what’s been shown so far, appears to be a highly buggy product (the regular RSS feed stuff doesn’t work, which is odd since it’s the same as what’s in the old version) and one that corrects none of the deficiencies.和，至少什麼的被證明直至目前為止，似乎是一個非常錯誤的產品（經常RSS饋送的東西不工作，這是奇數，因為它的一樣，什麼的，在舊版本）和1糾正，沒有缺陷。

  Mark: You need to ensure that it works with all feeds, renders better, and allows user confiugurability to suit the user… and not your developers.馬克：您需要，以確保它與所有飼料，使更好，並允許用戶confiugurability ，以適應用戶…而不是您的發展。

  Oh, and this doesn’t even raise my biggest issue: Viigo is often behind in bringing up feed data.哦，這不，甚至提出我的最大的問題： viigo往往是落後於造就飼料數據。 I’ve done side-by-side with FreeRange and FreeRange consistently brings up new feed data before Viigo.我已經做了並排與freerange和freerange一貫帶來了新的飼料數據之前， viigo 。 I have some feeds in Viigo that haven’t updated in days, even though they update in 40 minutes in FreeRange.我有一些飼料在viigo有沒有更新，在天內，即使他們更新在40分鐘內，在freerange 。

  I’ve done side-by-side comparisons of render quality and FreeRange consistently wins.我已經做了並排比較，使質量和freerange一貫獲勝。

  I’ve done side-by-side comparisons of ease of use (how much trackball scrolling I need to do, for example) and Viigo is consistently harder to use.我已經做了並排比較易於使用（多少軌跡球滾動，我需要做，例如）和viigo是一貫更難使用。 For example, how in the heck do I scroll by an entire screen at a time?舉例來說，如何在赫克我翻閱由一整個畫面在一個時間？

  Sorry to be so negative, but it amazed me how much worse Viigo is than FreeRange, but how much people love it.抱歉，那麼負面，但驚訝，我有多少viigo更糟的是，比freerange ，但有多少人喜歡它。 Maybe I’m missing something.也許我失踪的東西。 Can someone explain it to me?有人可以解釋給我呢？

  And, Mark, are you planning on improving the good old RSS stuff to render better and to actually work all the feeds that FreeRange does?和，馬克，你的規劃，改善的良好歲的RSS的東西，以提供更佳的和實際工作的所有供稿freerange是否？ Are you planning on ensuring that the user can get 30 minutes updates, if they really want?你的規劃，確保用戶可以得到30分鐘更新，如果他們真的想要什麼？ Or will this have to wait for some far distant release?這或將要等待一些遠遠遙遠的釋放？
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  Luciano ES 盧西亞諾部
  June 23rd, 2008 08:38 2008年6月23日8時38分

  Well, Viigo costs zero dollars while Freerange costs $40 per year.那麼， viigo成本零美元，而freerange成本40元左右。 Freerange is one of the most expensive applications in the entire Blackberry catalog if you intend to use it for 2 or 3 years. freerange是其中一個最昂貴的申請，在整個黑莓目錄如果你打算用它來二或三年。 If that doesn’t explain a lot of Viigo’s popularity, I don’t know what else does.如果不解釋了很多viigo的受歡迎程度，我不知道還有什麼沒有。
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  Jeff 傑夫
  June 23rd, 2008 09:23 2008年6月23日9時23分

  “Well, Viigo costs zero dollars while Freerange costs $40 per year.” “好， viigo成本零美元，而freerange成本40元，每年” 。

  Excellent point.優秀的一點。 FreeRange is free, up to 10 feeds. freerange是免費的，最多可有10供稿。 The only reason I keep hoping that Viigo would improve is because they don’t have the 10 feed limit.唯一的原因我一直希望viigo會改善，是因為他們沒有10飼料限制。 And, yes, $40/year is crazy!和，不錯，元40/year是瘋了！

  So, what we have is that Viigo is the cheap product.所以，我們已是viigo是廉價的產品。 But that’s very much different from it being a good product.但是，這十分不同，這是一個良好的產品。 From the way people talk about it, it seems like people feel that no better piece of software has ever been written (at least for the Blackberry).從人們的談論它，好像人都覺得沒有其他更好的軟件，從未以書面（至少黑莓） 。

  So, I understand the popularity based on price.因此，據我所知，受歡迎的基礎上的代價。
• 10
  DavidB davidb
  June 23rd, 2008 14:41 2008年6月23日14時41分

  Not sure if there is a changelog somewhere, but I noticed when I installed this Berryreview edition the version was something like 2.2.131 versus the 2.2.81 I had previously.不知道如果有一個更新的某處，但我注意到，當我在安裝此berryreview版的版本是一樣的東西2.2.131銀兩該2.2.81我以前。 So, for those who were going to skip this, it MAY be that the version upgrade fixes some stuff but I just don’t know.因此，對於誰將會跳過此，它可能認為版本升級修復了一些東西，但我不知道。 I didn’t prowl around the web site trying to find out what was different though.我沒有prowl左右，該網站試圖找出什麼不同，雖然。

  I guess it comes with the territory, but having the Berryreview graphic (and it’sa different Berryreview graphic to boot) on the top bar of any feed that doesn’t have a custom graphic is annoying (to me).我猜想它與該國領土，但具有berryreview圖形（和完全不同berryreview圖形開機）就最上面一欄的任何飼料，這並不有一個自訂的圖形是惱人的（對我） 。 I have become used to glancing there to see what feed I am reading, and it’sa bit weird to see the Berryreview name at the top of a National Hurricane Center forecast or a Ars Technica or Playstation.blog article.我已成為用來翻閱有，看看有什麼飼料，我讀，這是有點怪異地看到， berryreview最上方的名稱一個國家颶風中心的預測或一亞美尼亞救濟協會technica或playstation.blog文章。

  Not fixed still is the size of the icon on the desktop.不是固定不變的仍是大小的圖標在桌面上。 It seems recent versions the icon has grown to utilize every available pixel.似乎最新版本的圖標已發展到利用一切可用像素。 However, what that means is that when a theme such as Dimension Today+ is in use (probably other themes too), the yellow highlight is practically indistinguishable.但是，是什麼意思的是，當一個主題，如維今天+正在使用中（可能是其他的主題太） ，黃河突出的是，幾乎難以區分。 Could we get a Viigo desktop icon that’sa couple pixels smaller please???我們是否可以得到viigo桌面圖標that'sa夫婦像素較小，請？ ？ ？

  And I’ll echo the comments about text wrapping.我會呼應評論文字環繞。 My gosh, what are you thinking Viigo developers when you force us to try to make out words that are in a column of text 1 or 2 characters wide beside a picture???我gosh ，什麼是你思想viigo開發商當你迫使我們設法使出來的話是在一欄文字的1或2個字符廣泛旁邊的一張圖片？ ？ ？

  I am grateful for Viigo being FREE to nurture my growing RSS addiction, but I would GLADLY pay.我很感謝viigo免費的，以培養我成長的RSS成癮，但我會很樂意支付。 I WILL NOT pay Freerange’s $40/year fee though, that is just OUTRAGEOUS.我將不支付freerange的元40/year費，雖然，這只是離譜。
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  Jon 瓊
  June 23rd, 2008 21:57 2008年6月23日21時57分

  Jeff -傑夫-

  What a lead-off paragraph — in early Usenet days, this would be borderline “flame bait”….什麼是導致小康段-在早期的U senet天，這將是邊緣的“火焰誘餌” … … 。 Saying “some of use prefer FreeRange or Newsgator.他說： “一些使用寧願freerange或者NewsGator 。 Why?為什麼？ Because they are better products.” You pack quite a bit of implication in a small amount of text, and it hardly comes across as objective.因為他們是更好的產品， “你包了不少位的含義在少量文本，它很難遇到作為目標。 A shame to wade into this in a combative sarcastic fashion.辱韋德這在一個戰鬥風涼話時裝。

  Before addressing any of your specific points, I think you might want to re-read your own post for the most salient part.之前，解決您的任何具體的論點，我想你可能要重新閱讀自己的職位，最突出的部分。 In your own words, you say “Sorry to be so negative, but it amazed me how much worse Viigo is than FreeRange, but how much people love it.”在自己的話，你說“抱歉，那麼負面，但驚訝，我有多少viigo更糟的是，比freerange ，但有多少人喜歡它” 。

  OK - you’ve made it clear that you don’t understand why so many people “love” Viigo, but you’ve acknowledged “how much people love it”.確定-您說得很清楚你不明白為何有那麼多人“愛” v iigo，但您承認， “多少人愛它” 。

  Before you jump all over me in a response, you might want to pause and think about that.之前，你跳轉所有超過我在一個回應，您可能要暫停和思考。 Viigo is doing something pretty wonderful here — even in the first version, they managed to take an already-defined format and service, and make it far more appealing to a wide segment of the market. viigo是做一些漂亮的精彩在這裡-甚至在第一個版本，他們設法採取一個已經定義的格式和服務，使其遠遠更具吸引力廣泛的細分市場。 Creating a product and brand loyalty is part art, and part science.創造一個產品和品牌的忠誠度是部分藝術，和科學的一部分。 Viigo seems to be mastering that in a way that’sa bit analogous to the way that the iPod breathed new life into pocket music players. viigo似乎是掌握，在方式that'sa位類比的方式， iPod的呼吸注入新的生命口袋音樂播放器。 You can argue individual opinions about the iPod user interface and features, but in the end, you can’t dispute the outrageous brand and loyalty they have created.你可以辯稱，個別的意見，關於iPod的用戶界面和功能，但在最後，你不能提出異議，離譜的品牌和忠誠，他們創造了。

  People love Viigo for a lot of reasons.人民熱愛viigo為很多理由。 In the end, it’s the overall user experience, which has a lot of components.在年底，它的整體的用戶體驗，其中有很多的組成部分。 The folks who put out Viigo just “get it”.鄉親誰提出viigo只是“得到它” 。

  No question that FreeRange may have more settable options and a couple of features that would be nice in Viigo, but the experience just isn’t there.毫無疑問， freerange可能有更多的設置選項和一對夫婦的功能，這將是尼斯在viigo ，但經驗，只是不存在。

  I compared the three newsreaders last year, and wound up taking NewsGator Go and Freerange off my blackberry, leaving Viigo as the tool of choice. i相比，三個新聞閱讀器，去年，和清盤的考慮者NewsGator去freerange過我的黑莓，離開viigo作為工具的選擇。 Reading your post, I thought I should give them another try - maybe I had missed something.讀您的帖子，我想我應該給他們再次嘗試-也許我錯過了一些。 So I just downloaded an reinstalled the two of them side-by-side with Viigo.所以，我剛剛下載一個重新安裝他們兩人並排與viigo 。

  Newsgator Go is almost instantly disqualified in my book: there is no background download of article abstracts.者NewsGator去是幾乎會立即被取消資格，在我的書：有沒有背景下載的文章摘要。 I have to open a topic and then wait for the abstracts to download.我要打開一個話題，然後等待摘要下載。 I checked settings to see if I had missed an option and couldn’t find anything that pertained.我查了設置，看看如果我錯過了一個選項，並無法找到任何涉及。 If I missed it, please let me know.如果我錯過了它，請讓我知道。 Right now, I’m in an area with a spotty connection — since the articles aren’t downloaded in the background, I’m finding that I can open a topic folder - and just get a data error as it attempts to download articles.現在，我在一個區域內參差不齊連線-自文章不會被下載，在背景中，我發現我可以打開一個文件夾中的話題-和剛剛獲得的數據錯誤，因為它試圖下載的文章。 Bad, bad, bad!壞，壞，壞的！ I just opened “The Online”, and have to watch a “downloading articles” message while Newsgator contacts the server and starts downloading.我只是開設了“在線” ，並觀看了“下載的文章”的訊息，而接觸者NewsGator服務器，並開始下載。 That’s NOT what I want in my newsreader…這不是什麼我想在我的新聞…

  I’m glad that FreeRange at least runs a background download task.我很高興freerange至少運行的背景下下載的任務。 I like having the option to specify download intervals.我喜歡有選項來指定下載的間隔時間。 FreeRange appears to offer a LOT of options that the user can set — being something of a techie, I like that. freerange似乎提供了很多選項，用戶可以設置-被一些一項高科技，我想這一點。

  I’m finding that the full-page-at-a-time scrolling in FreeRange is horribly annoying.我發現，整頁- - 1 -滾動的時間在freerange是一塌糊塗惱人的。 I imagine it’s good for quick scrolling, but it’s dreadful from a reading perspective.我想像它的良好的快速滾動，但它的可怕，從閱讀的角度來看。 As you read down an article, you have to watch as the line that was at the bottom of your screen is followed by a flash and the next line appear at the TOP of your screen as you scroll down.正如你讀下來的一篇文章，你必須觀賞作為線，這是在屏幕底部其次是由一個閃存和下一行出現在屏幕頂部的你向下滾動。 I personally find this jarring and unpleasant — I haven’t found a way to shut this off yet — please let me know if you know of a way.我個人覺得這是震動和不愉快的-我還沒有找到一種方法，關閉這個小康，但-請讓我知道，如果你知道的一種方法。

  I liked that last (current) production version of Viigo for its total user experience.我很喜歡，去年（當前）的生產版本的viigo其總的用戶體驗。 I like Tango that much more.我喜歡探戈，大大加強。 the side-scrolling to get to the next layer down in nested menus is great.副作用滾動進入下一層下的巢式菜單是巨大的。 It’s an excellent visual metaphor, the smooth motion manages to convey a sense of polish and attention to detail that you’d normally see on an Apple product.它的一個很好的視覺隱喻，順利的議案管理，以傳達一種責任感，波蘭和注意細節，您通常看到的蘋果產品。 It’s pleasant, visually appealing - and you pay barely any price at all for this bit of animation.它的舒適，在視覺上的吸引力-您的薪酬幾乎沒有任何代價，在所有這一點的動畫。

  Also: is it my imagination, or do the Viigo abstracts have a bit more data than the Newsgator abstracts?也：這是我的想像力，或做viigo摘要多一點的數據比者NewsGator摘要？ Do they have the same abstract source?他們具有相同的摘要來源？

  Despite the various visual options in NewsGator and FreeRange, Viigo just looks SO much better to me.儘管各種視覺的選項者NewsGator和freerange ， viigo只是看起來這麼多，不如我。 But that’s subjective.但是，這是主觀的。

  Viigo listens to user input, and is accessible to the Blackberry community. viigo聽用戶輸入，並方便黑莓社會。 Your comments can influence product evolution.您的意見可以影響產品的演變。 Is there anyone around “representing” FreeRange or NewsGator who will take your input?是否有任何人靠近“代表” freerange或者NewsGator誰會考慮您的投入呢？ Please let me know.請讓我知道。

  I’d like to see more formatting options in Viigo — and I don’t doubt that I WILL see them at some point.我希望看到更多的格式化選項，在viigo -我不懷疑我會看看他們在一些點。 The product is evolving.該產品是不斷變化的。

  For now - Viigo is the master of user experience in blackberry RSS readers.現在-v iigo是碩士的用戶體驗在黑莓的R SS閱讀器。 The extra features in Tango are tantalizing, even if they’re not all implemented yet.額外的功能，探戈是誘人，即使它們不是所有尚未實施。

  My impression is that Viigo is evolving - but at a controlled pace that incorporates consideration of the future services that will be available through the product.我的印象是， viigo是不斷變化的-但在控制的步伐，納入考慮未來的服務將可透過產品。 E-commerce is going to be an integral part of this it seems, with the ability to buy tickets (and more?) via Viigo.電子商貿將會不可分割的一部分，這似乎與能力購買門票（及更多？ ）經viigo 。 But instead of slapping this on as an afterthought, it looks like they’ve already given thought to the way it could be incorporated within the context of the new UI.而是掌摑，這對作為一種事後的，它看起來像他們已經考慮到的方式，可以納入的背景下，新的UI 。 Now THAT is the kind of “attention to detail” and user experience that, I believe, sets them apart.現在，這是種“注重細節”和使用者的經驗，我相信，他們除了套。

  You, yourself, noted “now much people love” Viigo.你自己，指出： “現在很多人愛” viigo 。 The simplest explanation is that Viigo pays more attention to the overall user experience than the others do, and delivers on those considerations.最簡單的解釋是， viigo更加注重整體的用戶體驗比別人做的，並提供對這些考慮。 Despite the “features” of the other products, I just find them to appear clunky and a bit like shareware compared to Viigo.儘管在“功能”的其他產品，我只是找到它們的出現和笨重的，有點像共享相比， viigo 。

  BTW: if Viigo were as buggy, incomplete or inferior as you say, you and I wouldn’t see so many rave reviews of the product on every blackberry forum.的BTW ：如果viigo分別為小車，不完整或劣勢正如你所說，你和我都不會看到這麼多的狂野派對評語該產品的每一個黑莓論壇。 I know that, if it were buggy or limited as you imply, I would be long gone by now.我知道，如果它被小車或有限，因為你意味著，我將早已由現在。 Instead, Viigo is one of the icons on my home screen, and I read it several times every day.相反， viigo就是其中的圖標在我的主頁畫面中，我看過多次，每天。 It seems to be rock-solid and incredibly dependable.它似乎是堅如磐石的和令人難以置信的可靠。

  Viigo’s cost, usability and user experience, combined with a growing body of features, make the product pretty much THE RSS newsreader for a blackberry. viigo的成本，可用性和用戶體驗，再加上越來越多的功能，使產品非常的RSS新聞閱讀器為黑莓。

  - Jon -瓊
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  Jeff 傑夫
  June 24th, 2008 07:20 2008年6月24日7時20分

  Jon, the bait was Ronen’s.瓊，誘餌是ronen的。 I just bit.我只是位。

  In any case, I find that your response lacks the answer to my question.在任何情況下，我覺得您的回應缺乏我的問題的答案。 Why is this considered to be one of the best (if not THE best) product for Blackberry?為什麼這被認為是其中一個最好的（如果不是最好的）產品為黑莓？

  You make good points (although I disagree, but, as you say, these things are subjective).你好好點（雖然我不同意，但是，正如你所說，這些東西是主觀的） 。 But they don’t answer the question.但他們並沒有回答這個問題。

  Oh, any by the way, you can scroll line-by-line in FreeRange with the setting “Scroll text by page (instead of line by line)” under “Display.” You see, instead of Viigo deciding what’s best for everyone, FreeRange gives the user the choice.哦，任何由如此一來，您就可以滾動逐行在freerange與設置“滾動文本網頁（而不是逐行） ”下的“顯示”你看，而不是viigo決定什麼最好每一個人， freerange使得用戶的選擇。

  I think that’s my issue: Viigo deices what’s best for everyone.我認為，這是我的問題： viigo deices什麼的最好的每一個人。 There is no sign that Tango is going to be more configurable.有沒有跡象表明，探戈，將會更多的配置。 I mentioned a few things in my post that would be great configuration options.我所說的幾件事在我的職位，將偉大的配置選項。

  My other issue, which I think is more significant, is that I’ve found a bunch of feeds that Viigo either doesn’t update on a regular basis (I have 2 that haven’t been updated in days despite there being many new articles) or that won’t show full articles (”too many redirections” error).我的其他問題，我認為這是更重要的是，我發現一群供稿viigo要么沒有定期更新的基礎上（我有2尚未更新，在天內儘管有許多新文章）或將不會顯示完整的文章（ “有太多的重定向”的錯誤） 。 These feeds work well in FreeRange, so it’s not like they CAN’T work.這些資訊提供的工作，以及在freerange ，因此它的不一樣，他們不能工作。

  As for it looking nicer… I agree that it has an overall nice feel (and Tango feels better).至於它尋找美好的… …我同意它有一個整體的感覺不錯（和探戈覺得更好） 。 But, I believe, this is because they show graphic headers and have attractive banner ads.但我相信，這是因為他們顯示的圖形標題和有吸引力的橫幅廣告。 As someone else pointed out, however, reading an actual feed isn’t so pretty.作為別人指出，不過，讀一個實際的飼料是沒有那麼漂亮。 FreeRange displays graphics and text in a MUCH more readable way. freerange顯示的圖形和文字在一個更可讀的方式。 There is no graphic with 1-2 characters running down the side.有沒有圖形與1-2個字符運行下來的一面。 They let the user select a text size.他們讓用戶選擇一個文字的大小。 Viigo forces you into one text size. viigo勢力，你到一個文本大小。

  Keep in mind that the Tango work is focused on adding new features.請記住，探戈工作的重點是增加新的功能。 Which should be great.應該很大。 But the information I’ve been provided says that they aren’t reworking the old stuff.但這些資料我已經提供說，他們沒有改造的舊東西。 But given that the old stuff is so perfect, apparently (OK, that’s sarcasm), maybe they shouldn’t.但由於舊的東西是如此完美，顯然（確定，這是諷刺） ，也許他們不應該。

  So, I ask again… why is this product loved so much?所以，我再問…為什麼是此產品的愛這麼多？

  I any case, I currently use both. i ，無論如何，我目前使用的兩種。 That way, I can work around Viigo’s bugs by using FreeRange for the feeds that Viigo chokes on.這樣，我可以工作，圍繞viigo的錯誤使用freerange為供稿viigo扼流圈上。 And I can use Viigo to overcome FreeRange’s 10 feed limit.我可以使用viigo克服freerange的10個飼料的限制。

  I just wish I had one product.我只想我曾一產品。

  This all said, I’ll say that $40/year is crazy.這一切說，我會說，元40/year是瘋了。 I’d gladly pay a single $40 for FreeRange, but not every year.我要很樂意支付一個單一的40元freerange ，但並不是每一年。
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  Jeff 傑夫
  June 24th, 2008 07:27 2008年6月24日7時27分

  I think it’s fair to give another example.我認為這是公平的給另一個例子。 In Ronen’s screen shots above, I see the first article is “Mixology.mobi - Figure out How”在ronen的屏幕快照以上的，我看到第一篇文章是“ mixology.mobi -弄清楚如何”

  In FreeRange, I can tell the article is called “Mixology.mobi - Figure out How to Mix Drinks.”在freerange ，我可以告訴文章是所謂的“ mixology.mobi -弄清楚如何混合飲料” 。

  Viigo decided that I don’t need to actually know more than an handful of letters in an article name, so they picked a large and unchangeable (but perhaps pretty) font. viigo決定，我不需要知道，其實在一個多極少數的信件在一篇文章中的名稱，所以他們選擇一個大和永恆的（但也許漂亮的）字體。

  I mention this because I think I see it… As Jon points out… it’s about style.我提到這一點，因為我覺得我看到的… …因為瓊指出， … …它的風格。 I’m surmising that people like Viigo because it has style.我surmising的人一樣， viigo ，因為它的風格。 And people don’t much care about the substance.和人民做不大關心的實質內容。

  Viigo is like the girl/boy that’s so pretty that they won’t talk to you. viigo是一樣的女孩/男孩說的這麼漂亮的，他們不會與您交談。 They know that they’re pretty and, if you want to be seen with him/her, you have to put up with arrogance.他們知道他們很漂亮，如果你想看到與他/她，你要忍受囂張。 And the conversation lacks.和會話缺乏。

  Yup, I think that’s it.燁，我認為的。 Pretty face.漂亮的臉。 But lacking when compared to the less attractive, but more capable, people out there.但缺乏時相比，少的吸引力，但功能更為強大，人民的存在。

  For me, Viigo is someone you date.對我來說， viigo是有人你的日期。 But FreeRange is the one you marry.但freerange是一個你結婚。
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  Luciano ES 盧西亞諾部
  June 24th, 2008 13:30 2008年6月24日13時30分

  If things like Viigo’s side-scrolling ever mattered to me, I’d be using an iPhone.如果事情像viigo的橫向捲軸以往任何時候都重要的給我，我願意用1 iphone 。
  . 。
  Talking about smooth motion, have you tried scrolling a page with pictures in both applications?談到順利的議案，您是否嘗試過滾動一個網頁，圖片，在這兩個應用程序？
  Smooth motion matters when I am directly looking at something (eg pictures).順利的議案事項時，我直接看的東西（例如圖片） 。 When I switch from one particular view to any other view, it does not.當我切換從一個特別的看法，以任何其他的看法，這並不。 It’s just fluff then.這只是絨毛，然後。
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  Jon 瓊
  June 24th, 2008 23:13 2008年6月24日23時13分

  Jeff - apologies for attributing Ronen’s comment to you…Thx re: line scolling in傑夫-道歉歸咎於r onen的意見，給你… t hx重新：線在s colling

  FreeRange - I’ll check that out. freerange -我會檢查了這一點。

  I certainly don’t know what design choices went into Viigo’s approach of “making decisions當然，我不知道怎樣的設計選擇進入viigo的做法， “決策

  for you”.為你“ 。 I imagine the code is simpler and lighter weight, at least in some areas.我猜想守則是簡單和重量更輕，至少在一些地區。 Having有

  worked in software development for a *long* time, I’ve lived with the trade-offs involved工作在軟件開發為*長*時間，我已經住了與貿易所涉及的取捨

  in providing choices versus making “executive decisions” for users.在提供選擇銀兩作出“行政決定”的用戶。 You will never please您將永遠請

  everyone, and sometimes attempting to yields a complex mess that, in the end, pleases每個人，有時甚至企圖以產量一個複雜的一塌糊塗，在年底，隨心所欲

  virtually nobody.幾乎沒有人。 Finding just the right balance is a challenge.找到正確的平衡是一項挑戰。

  I know where you’re coming from with the “pretty girl” analogy, but I don’t see it here.我知道您是來自與“漂亮女孩”的比喻，但我看不出它在這裡。 If如果

  Viigo were devoid of utility, or really crappy, it might be different, but in my book viigo人缺乏實用工具，或真的crappy ，它可能會有所不同，但在我的書

  they’ve simply made design decisions that please some and annoy others.他們已經作出了簡單的設計決定請一些和煩擾他人。 But I also believe但我也相信

  that Viigo has paid more attention to user experience than the other products have.這viigo已更加重視用戶體驗，比其他產品。

  User experience is more than just flash and style.用戶體驗不止Flash和作風。 It’s about everything from “out of the它的所有信息，從“出於對

  box” first experience to extensive use over many months.盒子“的首次經驗，以廣泛使用在許多個月。 Viigo’s design suggests to me that viigo的設計建議，我認為

  the developers are aware of this notion.開發商都知道這個概念。

  I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the audience that “loves Viigo” so much.我不會這麼快解僱觀眾認為， “愛viigo ”這麼多。 I visit我訪問

  Pinstack, Blackberry Forums and Crackberry fairly often, and find that there’sa pretty pinstack ，黑莓論壇和crackberry相當頻繁，以及發現有相當

  solid core of users there that focus on utility and function as well as the more esoteric堅實的核心用戶有側重於公用事業及功能，以及更深奧

  aspects of user experience.方面的用戶體驗。 These people have the choice between iPhone and Blackberry, and這些人可以有選擇地之間的iphone和黑莓，

  most choose Blackberry — consciously making the choice to give up the “pretty girl” in大部分選擇黑莓-自覺地作出選擇，放棄“漂亮女孩”在

  favor of one that is, at once, attractive and more functional for their purposes.有利於一，就是在一次，吸引力和更多的功能，為他們的目的。 These這些

  same people seem to favor Viigo over the other products — and they, like us, have a choice同時人們似乎偏袒viigo比其他產品-和他們跟我們一樣，是有選擇的

  – nobody is persuading or forcing them to “love Viigo”. -沒有人是說服或迫使他們“愛v iigo” 。 These folks really are somewhat這些鄉親，實在是有點

  obsessed about functionality, comparing notes endlessly about different versions of the OS痴迷約的功能，比較注意到，無休止地對不同版本的操作系統

  to find the version with the best battery life, earpiece volume, bluetooth range, GPS start找到的版本與最好的電池壽命，聽筒音量，藍牙範圍，全球定位系統開始

  up time, memory management, etc. In the end, when these same people are asked to recommend隨訪時間，內存管理，等在最後，當這些相同的人要求推薦

  an RSS client, Viigo seems to be the predominant recommendation.一個RSS客戶端， viigo似乎是主要的建議。

  Form and function aren’t mutually exclusive.形式和功能並不相互排斥。 If you haven’t read it yet, I recommend “Zen如果你有沒有看過，但我建議“禪宗

  and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” by Robert Pirsig.和藝術的摩托車維修“羅伯特pirsig 。 It’sa combination of a story and這是相結合的一個故事，和

  a treatise on classicism vs romanticism.一傷寒論古典與浪漫。 At first, Pirsig seems to argue in favor of a在第一， pirsig似乎辯稱，在有利於一

  purely classical approach to rational functionality, but in the end, he develops a純粹古典的做法，到理性的功能，但在最後，他開發了

  compelling argument that illustrates the need for us to be able to embrace both viewpoints令人信服的論據，說明有必要使我們能夠接受雙方的觀點

  concurrently, emphasizing one more than the other as needed for each situation.同時，強調一較其他需要為每一種情況。 The那個

  language in the book is a bit “70’s”, but the book is, in its own way, brilliant.語言在這本書是位“ 70 ” ，但書是，在自己的路，輝煌。 Highly高度

  recommended.建議。

  The guys who put out Viigo really seem to understand this.球員誰提出viigo真的似乎明白這一點。 Viigo is pretty enough, and viigo是相當不夠的，

  pleasant enough, to grab your attention quickly.愉快的還不夠，搶到你注意迅速。 It’s smooth enough to be pleasant even它的順利足以讓愉快的，甚至

  after months of use.經過數個月的使用。 I, and seemingly a majority of users, find the functionality to be我似乎大多數的用戶，找到的功能要

  just right - and having it delivered in a handsome package just polishes the experience.恰恰好-有它發表在一個英俊的包剛剛打磨的經驗。

  That’s not to say it’s right for everyone.這並不是說，它的權利，為每一個人。 Few products are.少數產品。 I would like more options我想有更多選擇

  along the lines that FreeRange offers, but I don’t find Viigo’s chosen settings to be沿線freerange優惠，但我不覺得viigo的選擇設置要

  onerous.繁重。 I like to tinker, so I hope a future release offers more options, but the choices我喜歡修飾，所以我希望將來的版本中提供了更多的選擇，但選擇

  they’ve made are good enough so that I find the overall experience very positive.他們所做的都不夠好，所以我覺得整體的經驗是非常積極的。 That’s這是

  just me, and clearly your preferences are different.剛才我，並明確您的偏好是不同的。

  Being successful in a marketplace like this is brutal and highly competitive.成功的在一個市場一樣，這是殘酷的和高度的競爭力。 Unless you’re除非您

  shooting in the dark, you have to identify your target market segment, and figure out how射擊在黑暗中，你必須確定你的目標細分市場，並弄清楚如何

  to differentiate yourself to dominate that segment.區分自己主宰這部分人。 I believe that Viigo has figured out我相信viigo已揣摩

  how to dominate a larger, and probably more lucrative, market segment than the other RSS如何主宰較大，並可能更有利可圖，細分市場，比其他的RSS

  clients.客戶。 If you’re part of that segment, you’ll appreciate that, and if you’re not, you如果您的一部分，這部分，您會明白，如果您不是，您

  won’t.不會。 That’s not particularly good or bad - it just “is”.這不是特別好的或壞的-它只是“是” 。

  I would, however, take issue with the ideas floated that Viigo is “inferior” or that its不過，我想考慮的問題與思路浮動認為viigo是“劣勢” ，或其

  audience is not discerning.觀眾是不是辨別。 I just don’t buy that at all.我只是不買，在所有。 I see a very professional product我看到一個非常專業的產品

  offering that is polished, functional and fun to use.提供這是拋光，功能和充滿使用樂趣。 It won’t suit everyone, and I can它不會適合所有人，我可以

  easily imagine that it was never intended to be everything to everyone.可想而知，這是從來沒有意圖要一切為了大家。 But the “love” for但“愛”為

  Viigo that you describe reflects their attention to their target market and their product viigo您描述，反映了他們的注意，他們的目標市場和其產品

  execution.執行。

  BTW: I’m not a naive undiscerning nitwit… I’ma CIO with close to 3 decades experience in的BTW ：我不是一個天真的undiscerning nitwit …我的CIO與近30年來的經驗

  architecture, software development, product design and production (in everything from建築設計，軟件開發，產品設計及生產（在一切從

  startups to Fortune 100’s), and doing what it takes to attract and hold the attention of a初創到財富100強的） ，這樣做有什麼需要，以吸引和持有的注意1

  target audience.目標受眾。 My opinion is still just an opinion, but I have a bit of experience on我認為這是仍然只是一個意見，但我有一個位元的經驗

  which to base it.其中，以基地。 I understand the tradeoffs in product design and development, and have據我所知，權衡，在產品設計和開發，並已

  lived through them many times.生活並通過他們很多次了。 I think that Viigo has really hit the sweet spot, and the我認為viigo真的擊中甜蜜點，和

  “love” you see for the product reflects that. “愛”你看該產品的反映。

  - Jon -瓊
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  Brian 布賴恩
  August 7th, 2008 22:15 2008年8月7日22時15分

  not sure if everyone knows but freerange is really “free” now … the 10 feed limit has been lifted for some time but for whatever reason, their website still have not been updated … in any case, i really like freerange over viigo because of the formatting and the vast amount of available options … i try the new viigo beta and it locked up my curve each and every time … oh well back to freerange … one thing that i notice is on some websites/feeds, freerange does not display the gfx in the article