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	<title>Comments on: Verizon Updates 8830 OS To Version 4.2.2.196</title>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-21958</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anyway if you really want it it it should still be on the vzw.smithmicro.com/blackberry site&quot;

I moved on to 4.5 so long ago it seems now, but I believe this is still the latest official release from Verizon so it should still be there. I believe they call it &quot;MR3&quot; (Maintenance Release 3). 

But yeah, WHY would you want this unless you are &quot;back flashing&quot; for Verizon support reasons? There are &quot;official&quot; 4.5&#039;s from both Bell and Sprint for the 8830 that easily run on a Verizon 8830 and all the benefits of 4.5 (html email, working GPS in BBMaps, much cooler themes, better multimedia, etc.) can be yours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyway if you really want it it it should still be on the vzw.smithmicro.com/blackberry site&#8221;</p>
<p>I moved on to 4.5 so long ago it seems now, but I believe this is still the latest official release from Verizon so it should still be there. I believe they call it &#8220;MR3&#8243; (Maintenance Release 3). </p>
<p>But yeah, WHY would you want this unless you are &#8220;back flashing&#8221; for Verizon support reasons? There are &#8220;official&#8221; 4.5&#8217;s from both Bell and Sprint for the 8830 that easily run on a Verizon 8830 and all the benefits of 4.5 (html email, working GPS in BBMaps, much cooler themes, better multimedia, etc.) can be yours!</p>
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		<title>By: sovak75</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-21948</link>
		<dc:creator>sovak75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you want such ancient software?

Anyway if you really want it it it should still be on the vzw.smithmicro.com/blackberry site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you want such ancient software?</p>
<p>Anyway if you really want it it it should still be on the vzw.smithmicro.com/blackberry site</p>
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		<title>By: mmtts</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-21946</link>
		<dc:creator>mmtts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i m want yhis software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i m want yhis software.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-8202</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;   Bb map isn&#039;t a direction by direction navigation software. Lots of cheapskate think it is. &gt;&gt;

While I don&#039;t believe in name calling either, this is an excellent point.  BB Maps are just that Maps.

David, your examples are gross generalizations and not the same thing at all. Even if you are right about the GPS (and I&#039;m not conceding that) it&#039;s no different from certain GMS carriers who &quot;lock&quot; their handsets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;   Bb map isn&#8217;t a direction by direction navigation software. Lots of cheapskate think it is. &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t believe in name calling either, this is an excellent point.  BB Maps are just that Maps.</p>
<p>David, your examples are gross generalizations and not the same thing at all. Even if you are right about the GPS (and I&#8217;m not conceding that) it&#8217;s no different from certain GMS carriers who &#8220;lock&#8221; their handsets.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-8169</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has nothing to do with VZNavigator really russell, this is ALL about a carrier disabling a capability the manufacturer installs.  Think of it more like buying a car and the dealership gets to charge you extra (every month) if you want the windows to roll up and down. The manufacturer put working windows in the car but dealers charge extra if you want them to work? And perhaps you recall Verizon wanting extra to enable the bluetooth on handsets years ago? A class action lawsuit (which Verizon lost) resulted from that particular hardware disable.

There is a whole world of GPS enabled software out there (just search here at Berryreview for GPS for abundant examples).  BBMaps has it&#039;s place, Google Maps has it&#039;s place, VZNavigator has it&#039;s place.  I don&#039;t personally need turn by turn navigation, could care less, my car does that.  But there are a LOT of applications of GPS location (geotagging, golf course mapping, etc. etc. etc.) besides turn by turn navigation.

Considering the generally friendly nature of Berryreview, calling someone a cheapskate because they think having to pay an extra $10 PER MONTH to a carrier for something the hardware has designed in is a bit inappropriate don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has nothing to do with VZNavigator really russell, this is ALL about a carrier disabling a capability the manufacturer installs.  Think of it more like buying a car and the dealership gets to charge you extra (every month) if you want the windows to roll up and down. The manufacturer put working windows in the car but dealers charge extra if you want them to work? And perhaps you recall Verizon wanting extra to enable the bluetooth on handsets years ago? A class action lawsuit (which Verizon lost) resulted from that particular hardware disable.</p>
<p>There is a whole world of GPS enabled software out there (just search here at Berryreview for GPS for abundant examples).  BBMaps has it&#8217;s place, Google Maps has it&#8217;s place, VZNavigator has it&#8217;s place.  I don&#8217;t personally need turn by turn navigation, could care less, my car does that.  But there are a LOT of applications of GPS location (geotagging, golf course mapping, etc. etc. etc.) besides turn by turn navigation.</p>
<p>Considering the generally friendly nature of Berryreview, calling someone a cheapskate because they think having to pay an extra $10 PER MONTH to a carrier for something the hardware has designed in is a bit inappropriate don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: russell</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-8162</link>
		<dc:creator>russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whole vz navigator and gps thing is an old argument. Some people keep brining this up as if it is some good argument. It&#039;s like tv that doesn&#039;t come with an antenna.  TV gets lousy reception with the antenna , and gps function is no good without proper software.  If you want to watch TV properly, need to get cable/satellite that requires monthly fee.   If you want gps working properly, you need nz vav or telenav that require $10 fee monthly.  Bb map isn&#039;t a direction by direction navigation software. Lots of cheapskate think it is. 

People who complain about this $10 generally complain about lots of other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whole vz navigator and gps thing is an old argument. Some people keep brining this up as if it is some good argument. It&#8217;s like tv that doesn&#8217;t come with an antenna.  TV gets lousy reception with the antenna , and gps function is no good without proper software.  If you want to watch TV properly, need to get cable/satellite that requires monthly fee.   If you want gps working properly, you need nz vav or telenav that require $10 fee monthly.  Bb map isn&#8217;t a direction by direction navigation software. Lots of cheapskate think it is. </p>
<p>People who complain about this $10 generally complain about lots of other things.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-8151</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google mapa does. Just make suer that you have Locatiom ON under Settings &gt; GPS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google mapa does. Just make suer that you have Locatiom ON under Settings &gt; GPS</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-8150</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Provides support for 2 GB and 8 GB microSD cards.&quot;
I wonder if that&#039;s a typo?  My 2GB microSD has worked with every Verizon software release for the 8830.  Maybe they mean 4 and 8 GB?  I don&#039;t have either to try...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Provides support for 2 GB and 8 GB microSD cards.&#8221;<br />
I wonder if that&#8217;s a typo?  My 2GB microSD has worked with every Verizon software release for the 8830.  Maybe they mean 4 and 8 GB?  I don&#8217;t have either to try&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/06/09/verizon-updates-8830-os-to-version-422196/comment-page-1/#comment-8149</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Improves location-based services (LBS)&quot;
Perhaps, but I guess only if you pay the $10/month extra for VZNavigator.  Despite what &quot;tim&quot; has said in a couple other threads, no GPS capable software I&#039;ve tried with this release is able to get a GPS fix. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Improves location-based services (LBS)&#8221;<br />
Perhaps, but I guess only if you pay the $10/month extra for VZNavigator.  Despite what &#8220;tim&#8221; has said in a couple other threads, no GPS capable software I&#8217;ve tried with this release is able to get a GPS fix. <img src='http://www.berryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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