RIM Takes Down OS 4.5.0.37 Beta From Partners Website RIM公司需要减少操作系统的测试版4.5.0.37从合作伙伴的网站
In a surprising move RIM has decided to take down the OS 4.5.0.37 from their partners website at在令人惊讶的动议RIM公司已决定采取下跌操作系统4.5.0.37从他们的合作伙伴的网站 www.BlackBerryuniverse.com www.blackberryuniverse.com . 。 I wonder what prompted that?我不知道是什么提示？
Personally I think that RIM is always focusing on the cup half empty.我个人认为，环始终是着眼于世界杯的一半是空的。 This is the wrong approach. They should promote public beta testing to allow them to fix more of their bugs before they release the software.这是错误的做法，他们应该促进公共测试版，让他们能修复更多的错误之前，他们释放该软件。 The people who install these OS Beta’s are serious BlackBerry users who would be glad to provide RIM with some insight and feedback.人民的谁安装这些操作系统的测试版的是严重的BlackBerry用户会是谁高兴地提供RIM公司与一些有识之士和反馈。 Instead of offering this to them and listening to their feedback they just snub their noses at them.而不是提供此向他们，听取他们的意见，他们只是怠慢，他们在他们的眼皮底下。
What does RIM have to lose?什么是RIM公司已失去了呢？ It is not like they charge for the updated OS?这是不喜欢他们负责为更新的操作系统？ The only harm I can see is for the carrier who has to support a buggy OS.唯一的伤害，我可以看到的是，为运营商谁也支持一个错误的操作系统。 On the other hand they could solve that problem exactly the same way Microsoft does.在另一方面，他们可以解决这个问题不尽相同的方式， Microsoft不作。 They just have to say that this beta is unsupported.他们只是要指出，此次测试是不受支持。 If you are having trouble please downgrade.如果您遇到困难，请降级。
If even the bureaucratic Microsoft can see the benefits of a public beta why is RIM so close minded?如果连官僚微软可以看到的好处，公开测试版，为什么RIM公司如此接近的态度呢？ Anybody have any ideas?任何人有任何的想法呢？
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June 2nd, 2008 14:08 2008年6月2日14时08分
is it because on installing the 4.5.0.37 os on a TMobile handset it was killing the sim card.是不是因为对安装4.5.0.37操作系统对1 tmobile手机，它是杀害SIM卡。 I have 4 cases (one is it was twice to the same person) that this has happened.我有4例（其中一个是它的两倍，以同一人）表示，这已发生了。
June 2nd, 2008 15:05 2008年6月2日15时05分
Wait a minute.且慢。 When did Microsoft ever become a model to anyone who wants to be serious?什么时候微软以往任何时候都成为一个模式，任何人谁希望成为严重？ Of all companies in the world, you chose Microsoft to make a comparison?所有公司在世界上，您选择的微软作一比较？
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No, I’m not in favor of betas.不，我不是在主张的试用版。 We pay dearly for these devices and service.我们所付出的代价，为这些设备和服务。 I don’t think we should work for RIM for free.我不认为我们应该致力于环免费的。 RIM has been very competent, so just let them do their job and let us know when it’s ready. RIM公司一直非常能干的，所以只是让他们做他们的工作并让我们知道，当它的准备。 And we, we already do a lot paying for their products and services and doing so much Blackberry advocacy wherever we go.而我们，我们已经做了很多支付其产品和服务，做了这么多黑莓宣传的情况下，我们去。
June 2nd, 2008 15:37 2008年6月2日15时37分
Wether anyone likes it or not, anyone who installs the BETA OS’s is in-voluntarily helping RIM out…thanks to their tracking application quincy lol look back at the old 4.3 BETA’s once you installed it and booted up your device, you sent RIM your SIM card #, IMEI and PIN…unless of course you edit the BlackBerry.alx file and removed all the associated .cod files from the application loader.天气的人喜欢与否，任何人谁安装测试版操作系统的是，在自愿帮助环列…感谢他们的跟踪应用昆西lol回头看旧4.3试用版的，一旦你安装了它，并启动了您的设备，您发送环您的SIM卡＃ ，的IMEI和PIN …当然，除非您在编辑blackberry.alx档案，并取消所有相关的。 COD的档案，从应用装载机。
June 2nd, 2008 16:21 2008年6月2日16时21分
“Wait a minute. “等一下。 When did Microsoft ever become a model to anyone who wants to be serious?什么时候微软以往任何时候都成为一个模式，任何人谁希望成为严重？ Of all companies in the world, you chose Microsoft to make a comparison?”所有公司在世界上，您选择的微软作一比较“ ？
^^That was hilarious. ^ ^这是搞笑。 I love beta’s but at the same time agree with the fact we payed money for our devices and service etc, but there has to be some group of people to test out these things that how the world works.我爱测试版的，但在同一时间，同意的事实，我们payed钱，为我们的设备和服务等，但必须有一些有一群人来测试这些东西，世界如何工程。 We all know RIM is watching every post, which would be scary, but would only benefit them in the future.我们都知道， RIM公司正在注视每一个岗位，这将是可怕的，但将不仅有利于他们在未来的。
June 2nd, 2008 17:06 2008年6月2日17时06分
Luciano: If there are no betas, then customers will complain about bugs that we didn’t catch; as we’ve seen in previous OS’s.卢西亚诺：如果没有测试版，那么客户会抱怨错误，我们没有赶上;正如我们已经看到在以前的操作系统的。 Microsoft does do a good job in Betas and makes it a huge thing - their Vista beta, people who submitted at least one bug received a copy of Vista Ultimate for free.微软是否做好在试用版，并使它成为庞大的东西-他们的V ista的试用版，人们谁提交的至少有一个错误收到了一份V ista的最终完全免费。 Beta’s are good because us developer’s can’t always imagine the ways that someone might use the software, and can’t push the device in that way.试用版的是一件好事，因为我们开发的总不能想象的方式，有人可能会利用该软件，并不能推动装置以这种方式。 Test units and cases can only test certain aspects.测试单位和案件只能测试的某些方面。 Similar to drug testing, invivo vs invitro.类似的药物测试， invivo与invitro 。
And there’sa choice whether to test the beta or not, it’s not being forced on anyone.并有选择是否测试试用版或不，这不是被强迫任何人。 I would chose a beta-tested release, versus one that’s just been tested by the company.我选择了β -测试释放，银两一说，只是经过测试，该公司。 Again, developers know their software in and out, it’s through public testing things can be made easier or corrected.再次，发展商知道他们的软件在和，它的通过公开测试的东西，可以作出更容易或更正。
June 2nd, 2008 19:23 2008年6月2日19时23分
I totally see your point, Nabeel, but I don’t think public beta testing is really “easier” as much as it is *cheaper*.我完全看到您的点， nabeel ，但我不认为公共测试版，实在是“容易”得多，因为它是便宜* * I would never do public beta testing if I had my own company.我绝不会做的公众beta测试，如果我有我自己的公司。 I think the right way to do this is have the developers do the testing or *hire professional testers*, but some companies don’t want to pay.我认为正确的方式做，这是有发展商做测试，或*聘请专业的测试* ，但有些公司不想支付。 I, for one, am not a professional tester but I am great at breaking stuff and finding flaws.我来说，不是一个很专业的测试，但我的伟大打破的东西，寻找漏洞。 I know at least a couple of people who are sure to break whatever you let them have access to.我知道至少有一对夫妇的人谁是一定要打破，无论你让他们有获得。 Like magic.像魔术。 And no, they are not fools or technology-challenged.没有，他们不是傻瓜或技术的挑战。 That kind of talent should be tapped.这样的人才应可挖。 That’s how cars and airplanes are made.这是怎样的汽车和飞机。 Some people are good at building, others are good at using and pushing limits.有些人是善于建设，有的善于运用和推动的限制。 But too many people are willing to work for free and that’s great for the quarter’s bottom line.但太多的人愿意为之工作的自由和伟大的该季度的底线。 That’s mooching.这mooching 。 I find that very, very unelegant for a big company like Google, Microsoft or RIM.我觉得这非常，非常unelegant为一家大公司，像Google ，微软或环。
June 2nd, 2008 19:33 2008年6月2日19时33分
Have to disagree with you Luciano.有不同意你卢西亚诺。 These “leaked” betas are great, and customers, RIM, and 3rd party’s can learn a lot from them.这些“泄漏”的试用版，都是伟大的，和客户， Research In Motion公司，以及第三党的，可以学到很多东西，从他们。 And a more stable product can result.和一个更稳定的产品可以结果。
June 2nd, 2008 19:36 2008年6月2日19时36分
It’s not cheaper or easier to have a beta program.这不是便宜或更容易有一个测试计划。 It’s probably more expensive, and requires a lot of coordination.这可能是较为昂贵，并需要大量的协调工作。 I’ma PM and a developer, and I’m sure many developers would agree, you want as many eyes as possible looking over your software, especially from the users.我是下午和发展，我敢肯定，许多开发商会同意，你想很多的眼睛，尽可能寻找你的软件，特别是从用户。 It doesn’t happen because it’s cheaper, it’s because we want the users and a new set of eyes looking at the software, asking questions like “Is this useable, could this interface use enhancement?”; to someone who works with it everyday, it’s very very easy to overlook things.它不会发生，因为它的便宜，那是因为我们希望用户和一套新的眼睛看软件，问问题一样， “这是可用，可使用此接口的增强？ ” ;某人谁工程与它每天，这是非常非常容易忽略的东西。
It’s not mooching, it’sa voluntary program, and you mentioned cars - there are many consumer focus groups, and manufactures do want your say, and you’re not paid.这不是mooching ，这是自愿的计划，和你所提到的汽车公司-有很多消费者焦点团体和制成品想您说，您不支付。 Of course, software is different, and because of the easy nature of just downloading and installing something gives the opportunity, which makes it awesome that a company would do it.当然，软件是不同的，而且由于容易的性质，只是下载并安装一些给机会，这使得可怕，该公司将这样做。 I work for a university, and we have volunteer groups and do beta testing for select people who volunteer to, so we are sure that the customer gets what they want.我工作，为一所大学，和我们有义工团体，做beta测试，为选择的人谁自愿，所以我们相信，客户得到他们想要的。
June 4th, 2008 01:20 2008年6月4日1时20分
personally, i have had a lot of support tickets for with 4.5 OS issue.我个人来说，我已经有很多支持的门票与4.5操作系统的问题。 The app wouldn’t open.应用程序将无法打开。 I have test many aps that won’t open on 4.5 OS.我有很多测试认可人士表示，将不会开放， 4.5操作系统。 I hope if they backed out, there are serious issues.我希望，如果他们退出，存在着严重的问题。 Because innovation won’t stop.因为创新就不会停止。 They will come up with something better.Plus they need to combat iphones他们会想出了一些better.plus他们需要打击iphones
June 4th, 2008 01:54 2008年6月4日1时54分
Still looks to be there….仍期待着在那里… … 。
June 5th, 2008 21:03 2008年6月5日21时03分
I put 4.5.0.37 on my Curve.我把4.5.0.37对我的曲线。 Will vouch for the SIM problem.将担保为SIM卡的问题。 The video functionality was great, overall the O/S is good, there are a few problems with the native browser and UMA视频功能是伟大的，整体的O / s的是好的，有几个问题，与本土的浏览器和一
June 6th, 2008 12:00 2008年6月6日12时
From a previous 4.5 version to an upgrade of this version, even a Nuke and Fresh Reload of this Version I am not seeing that there is any issue with the SIM or accessing it, Info it shows via Sim Card is normal…Is this specific to Carrier?从先前的4.5版本升级，此版本，即使是核问题和新鲜重新载入这个版本我没有看到有任何问题与SIM卡或访问它，它表明信息通过SIM卡是正常的…这是具体到承运人？ What is the actual issue experienced?什么是实际的问题，有经验的呢？