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	<title>Comments on: RANT! What Is The Point Of Retail Pricing For BlackBerry Devices</title>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/04/29/rant-what-is-the-point-of-retail-pricing-for-blackberry-devices/#comment-3512</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You notice the &quot;retail&quot; price of all berries is going up now? 

Personally, its all marketing mumbo-jumbo, so carriers can put a sign on devices in the store with a huge price tag and then &quot;their&quot; price to convince lemmings what a &quot;deal&quot; they are getting by going with longer contract. 

But reason aside, if we weren&#039;t getting subsidized handsets, we&#039;d be paying at a minimum iPhone-ish prices for a berry. Wouldn&#039;t surprise me to see $500 or more though I DO think $750 for a curve is ridiculous. Combine that with occasional &quot;sales&quot; though (maybe $200 off for an occasional 1 week sale) like all other consumer electronics, and we&#039;re in the ballpark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You notice the &#8220;retail&#8221; price of all berries is going up now? </p>
<p>Personally, its all marketing mumbo-jumbo, so carriers can put a sign on devices in the store with a huge price tag and then &#8220;their&#8221; price to convince lemmings what a &#8220;deal&#8221; they are getting by going with longer contract. </p>
<p>But reason aside, if we weren&#8217;t getting subsidized handsets, we&#8217;d be paying at a minimum iPhone-ish prices for a berry. Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to see $500 or more though I DO think $750 for a curve is ridiculous. Combine that with occasional &#8220;sales&#8221; though (maybe $200 off for an occasional 1 week sale) like all other consumer electronics, and we&#8217;re in the ballpark.</p>
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		<title>By: CybaCowboy</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/04/29/rant-what-is-the-point-of-retail-pricing-for-blackberry-devices/#comment-3125</link>
		<dc:creator>CybaCowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here Down Under (Australia), mobile telecommunications equipment can be purchased one of three ways...


• Outright.
If a customer would like to purchased a handset on its own, unlocked and without a service plan, they can do so at the &quot;outright&quot; price, which can anywhere from $AU200 ($US186.96)-$AU2,000 ($US1869.68), depending on the handset selected... The customer can then sign-up to a month-to-month (no contract) or 12/18/24-month contract, depending on the service provider.

In some cases, service providers in-directly discourage month-to-month (non-contract) plans by charging a higher rate or not including as much value, compared to other options...


• Repayment option.
Whilst the exact term differs from service provider-to-service provider, the most popular choice for local customers is to &quot;pay-off&quot; the &quot;outright&quot; cost of a device over 12 or 24 months (usually the latter) - this is in addition to one&#039;s service plan, and usually there is a &quot;minimum&quot; service plan that a customer can connect to with an individual device, based on a range of factors including (but not limited to) the outright price and popularity of a device.


• Subsidised handset.
Usually reserved for older, cheaper or less-popular handsets, subsidised handsets are included in the cost of one&#039;s service plan over 24 months (a small number of service providers also do this over 36 months), essentially making the handset &quot;free&quot;...

Such a system was once used by virtually all of the Australian service providers, however most service providers either directly or in-directly discourage such plans, in favour of the repayment option above.


So as you can see, despite having more cellphones-per-capita here, we are also amongst the most expensive for these and other reasons...

Sadly, it&#039;s unlikely to change anytime soon.



~ Posted wirelessly from my BlackBerry 8800 ~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here Down Under (Australia), mobile telecommunications equipment can be purchased one of three ways&#8230;</p>
<p>• Outright.<br />
If a customer would like to purchased a handset on its own, unlocked and without a service plan, they can do so at the &#8220;outright&#8221; price, which can anywhere from $AU200 ($US186.96)-$AU2,000 ($US1869.68), depending on the handset selected&#8230; The customer can then sign-up to a month-to-month (no contract) or 12/18/24-month contract, depending on the service provider.</p>
<p>In some cases, service providers in-directly discourage month-to-month (non-contract) plans by charging a higher rate or not including as much value, compared to other options&#8230;</p>
<p>• Repayment option.<br />
Whilst the exact term differs from service provider-to-service provider, the most popular choice for local customers is to &#8220;pay-off&#8221; the &#8220;outright&#8221; cost of a device over 12 or 24 months (usually the latter) &#8211; this is in addition to one&#8217;s service plan, and usually there is a &#8220;minimum&#8221; service plan that a customer can connect to with an individual device, based on a range of factors including (but not limited to) the outright price and popularity of a device.</p>
<p>• Subsidised handset.<br />
Usually reserved for older, cheaper or less-popular handsets, subsidised handsets are included in the cost of one&#8217;s service plan over 24 months (a small number of service providers also do this over 36 months), essentially making the handset &#8220;free&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Such a system was once used by virtually all of the Australian service providers, however most service providers either directly or in-directly discourage such plans, in favour of the repayment option above.</p>
<p>So as you can see, despite having more cellphones-per-capita here, we are also amongst the most expensive for these and other reasons&#8230;</p>
<p>Sadly, it&#8217;s unlikely to change anytime soon.</p>
<p>~ Posted wirelessly from my BlackBerry 8800 ~</p>
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		<title>By: hyedipin</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/04/29/rant-what-is-the-point-of-retail-pricing-for-blackberry-devices/#comment-3123</link>
		<dc:creator>hyedipin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with the rant! but blame manufacturers for not selling them direct! not carriers for ripping people off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with the rant! but blame manufacturers for not selling them direct! not carriers for ripping people off.</p>
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		<title>By: Calum</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/04/29/rant-what-is-the-point-of-retail-pricing-for-blackberry-devices/#comment-3119</link>
		<dc:creator>Calum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always a bit shocked when I read stories on sites like this, about the cost of BlackBerrys and the cost of internet charges. I&#039;m in the UK. I just got a Curve 8310. It costs £30 (about $60US) a month for everything. Internet is unlimited. I get 200 minutes and 400 texts each month and the hanset is free. This is standard in the UK. I can&#039;t understand why it&#039;s not in the US or Canada. Also, taking into account the differences between the US and UK economy (I don&#039;t know about Canada), £30 wouldn&#039;t actually be $60. More like $50. For example, a laptop costing £500 wouldn&#039;t be $1000, more like $800.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always a bit shocked when I read stories on sites like this, about the cost of BlackBerrys and the cost of internet charges. I&#8217;m in the UK. I just got a Curve 8310. It costs £30 (about $60US) a month for everything. Internet is unlimited. I get 200 minutes and 400 texts each month and the hanset is free. This is standard in the UK. I can&#8217;t understand why it&#8217;s not in the US or Canada. Also, taking into account the differences between the US and UK economy (I don&#8217;t know about Canada), £30 wouldn&#8217;t actually be $60. More like $50. For example, a laptop costing £500 wouldn&#8217;t be $1000, more like $800.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.berryreview.com/2008/04/29/rant-what-is-the-point-of-retail-pricing-for-blackberry-devices/#comment-3114</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for a Telus Dealer, and the reason for the retail pricing is when a customer wants to buy it straight out, and doesn&#039;t want us to activate it for them. If we don&#039;t at least activate on a MTM term, then we don&#039;t get subdized. At least that&#039;s the reason they told me. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a Telus Dealer, and the reason for the retail pricing is when a customer wants to buy it straight out, and doesn&#8217;t want us to activate it for them. If we don&#8217;t at least activate on a MTM term, then we don&#8217;t get subdized. At least that&#8217;s the reason they told me. <img src='http://cdn3.berryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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