Rant ; Where’s our privacy !!! rant ;那裡的我們的隱私!

Now anyone who follows my articles knows I don’t get upset very easily.現在,只要誰如下我的文章知道我不破壞,很容易。 In fact, I can’t remember the last time I wrote a Rant.事實上,我不記得我最後一次寫了一rant 。
But this has really steamed me up so I thought I would write about it.但是,這真的蒸箱,使我以為我會寫它。
Now for those who don’t know, Australia is a Free country.現在對於誰不知道,澳洲是一個自由的國度。 (As free, if not more so than the US or Canada). (免費,如果不是更比美國或加拿大) 。 The new Australian government has decided to introduce new legislation to give employers the right to check any or all emails sent or received by their employees on work email addresses without your knowledge.新的澳洲政府已決定引入新法例,讓雇主有權檢查任何或所有的電子郵件發送或接收他們的僱員對工作的電子郵件地址,沒有您的知識。 The excuse, Cyber-Terrorism… Now I’ve got no problem with all the security upgrades worldwide since 9/11 but this is my eyes is going too far.藉口,網絡恐怖主義…現在我已經沒有得到任何問題,所有的安全升級,在全世界自從9 / 11 ,但,這是我的眼睛是太遠。 What happened to privacy???所發生的隱私權? ? ? What happened to civil rights???所發生的民事權利? ? ? What happened to freedom of speech???所發生的言論自由? ? ?
No more are we going to be able to call the boss a ‘wanker’ in inter-office emails.沒有更多的是我們要能夠呼籲老闆' wanker '在跨辦公室的電子郵件。 (If you don’t know what ‘wanker’ means hit this link ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanker . And yes, the picture above is of a young Paul Hogan in character as one of his personas, Leo Wanker). (如果您不知道什麼' wanker '是指達到此鏈接; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wanker 。和是的,以上圖片是一位年輕的保羅霍根在性格,他的一個personas ,利奧wanker ) 。 Now, most of us are guilty of saying a bad word or two about the boss to peers in the workplace.現在,我們大多數人都是有罪的說法一個壞字或兩個約老闆同行在工作場所。 Some of this conversation usually spills over into emails.Now, would you send that same email if there was a chance your boss might intercept it?一些此會話通常溢漏到emails.now ,你會發送相同的電子郵件,如果有一個機會,你的老闆可能攔截? Probably not…大概不會…
Don’t get me wrong, some work places need to monitor emails for security purposes.不要誤會我的意思,有些工作場所的需要監測的電子郵件為了安全起見。 (Law enforcement, security institutions and military installations are just a couple that come to mind). (執法,安全機構和軍事設施只是一對夫婦來記) 。 But in your stock standard law firm or accounting company I feel that tyrant type bosses are going to take advantage of this new power.但在您的庫存標準的律師事務所或會計公司,我覺得暴君型的老闆是要利用這一新的權力。
An example would be;一個例子會;
(Before the new law) (這項新法令實施前)
”Hi Tony,The boss has really been riding me in the last week. “嗨,托尼,老闆真的一直騎在我的最後一個星期。 If the bastard would start to work on the project at hand more than his bloody golf handycap then life would be a heap easier…如果王八將開始該項目的工作在手比他更血腥的高爾夫球場,然後handycap生活將是一個更容易堆積…
Take CareFred”採取carefred “
(After the new law) (後新的法律)
”Dear Mr Anthony J Wright, “親愛的議員,張炳良j賴特
Sorry for not replying to your inter office emails for the last week or so.對不起,不回答您的跨辦公室電子郵件的最後一個星期或如此。 I have several meetings this morning but am totally on top of the situation.我曾數次會議,今天上午,但絕對對頂端的情況。
By the way, I heard it around the office that Mr (Insert bosses name here) is a fantastic golfer and could hold his own with the likes of Tiger Woods.由順便說一下,我聽到辦公室周圍先生(插入老闆的姓名在這裡)是一次精彩絕倫的高爾夫和可容納自己與喜歡的老虎伍茲。
Anyway, work to do…無論如何,工作要做…
Yours Sincerely,此致,
Mr Frederick Wrong.”馮檢錯“ 。
Ok, I will get off my soapbox now and open up the floor. Do you agree with this type of security upgrade or not?確定,我會下車,我的表演,現在和開放在地上。你是否同意這種類型的安全升級或不? (And is there any such legislation and where else?)(Or am I just way out of line and should just submit to loosing another part of my privacy?) Comment away… (和是否有任何這樣的立法和什麼地方呢? ) (或我剛才的方式脫節,並應提交給剛剛鬆動的另一部分,我的隱私權? )評論:遠離…
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April 14th, 2008 06:39 2008年4月14日6時39分
As far as I know, this practice has been going on for quite some time now in the US.據我所知,這種做法已持續了一段時間,現在在美國。 Seems to me that it has been determined in US Court that employers, who own the email system, have a legal right to check out any email that goes through their system.在我看來,它已決定在美國法院認為,雇主,誰自己的電子郵件系統,有一個法律的權利,簽出任何的電子郵件,通過他們的系統。 I’m not agreeing with this myself, but I prefer web mail (Google, Yahoo, etc.) to send personal messages to my family, and speak face to face when possible with my coworkers.我不同意這個自己,但我寧願網絡郵件( Google ,雅虎等) ,以傳送個人信息,我的家人,和發言,面對面時,可能與我的同事們。 Unfortunately, web mail at work seems to act up more than at home, leading me to believe something or someone is messing with that too.不幸的是, Web Mail的工作似乎行為多於在家裡,導致我相信某事或某人是梅辛與太。
April 14th, 2008 06:40 2008年4月14日06:40
Well Greg,以及格雷格,
Corporate email monitoring has is pretty much the standard here in the States, however, I think “security” has little to do with it.企業電子郵件的監測已是非常的標準在這裡,在美國,不過,我認為“安全”已不大用它做。 It is par for course that most companies monitor email especially after the Enron / Arther Anderson fiasco from a few years ago.這是桿為當然,大部分的公司監控電子郵件,尤其是後安然/ arther安德森混亂,從幾年前。
Maybe the difference here is that your are saying this is happening “without the employees knowledge”.也許在這裡的差別是,您說這是發生“沒有僱員的知識” 。 Most corporate email policies here in America clearly state that corporate email may be monitored, but, once again, this has little to do with security.大多數公司的電子郵件政策在美國的明確說明,公司的電子郵件,可監測,但再次,這沒有什麼與安全。
April 14th, 2008 06:51 2008年4月14日6時51分
Sorry about the formatting of the post but having a few problems with Safari talking to Wordpress..遺憾的格式後,但有幾個問題的Safari交談的WordPress ..
April 14th, 2008 07:15 2008年4月14日7時15分
I’ll add that in the US personal blogs verbally insulting a persons employers, to my knowledge, have been the reason that at least one company has fired its employee, once that company found out who wrote the blog.我會補充一點,就是在美國的個人博客口頭侮辱,一人,雇主,據我所知,已原因,至少有一個公司已發射了它的僱員,一旦該公司發現,誰寫的博客。 This was not even on a company server.這是不是即使在公司的伺服器。 It wouldn’t surprise me if this has happened several times in the resent past.它會不會感到奇怪,我如果出現這種情況幾倍,在過去的反感。
April 14th, 2008 07:58 2008年4月14日7時58分
The current administration in the United States has set civil liberties back 50 years, all in the name of fighting terrorism.目前,政府當局在美國已成立公民自由回到50年來,在所有的名稱,打擊恐怖主義。 It is people like you and our fearless librarians in this country that question such policies and fight endlessly to preserve true freedom.這是人民一樣,您和我們的無畏無懼,館員在這個國家,這個問題,這些政策和無休止的鬥爭,以維護真正的自由。 Keep calling in question such policies, you are doing the right thing, and everyones freedoms will be preserved.繼續呼籲有問題的這些政策,你是做正確的事,和everyones自由將被保留。
Robert羅伯特
April 14th, 2008 08:03 2008年4月14日8時03分
It’sa non-event.這非活動。 Read:內容如下:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=521210&cid=23060106
Whole thing has been hyped by the media and dumb journalists to be something it’s not.整個事情已經誇大了由媒體和啞巴記者要的東西,它的不是。
Case closed個案結束
April 14th, 2008 09:07 2008年4月14日9時07分
[...] Originally Posted by Gregmyers I actually posted this on BerryReview before I posted here. [ … … ]最初張貼由gregmyers其實我張貼,這對berryreview之前,我在此張貼。 I am getting some interesting comments back from the US where this has been the norm for some time… Here is a link for everyone to this article on BerryReview: Rant ; Where’s our privacy !!!我收到了一些有趣的評論,回到從美國那裡,這一直是規範了一段時間…這裡是一個鏈接,讓大家此文章對berryreview : rant ;那裡的我們的隱私! | BerryReview [...] | berryreview [ … … ]
April 14th, 2008 09:08 2008年4月14日9時08分
Great tip, Neil!偉大的秘訣,尼爾!
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This issue has many facets.這個問題是多方面的。 Here in Brazil, where terrorism is never an issue (yet), the prevailing argument is that if the company owns the building, the network, the bandwidth, the computer and your paid working hours, your boss has every right to check up on whatever you’re up to with the company’s resources I just mentioned.這裡在巴西,恐怖主義是從來沒有的問題, (但) ,普遍的說法是,如果該公司擁有的建設,網絡,帶寬,計算機和您的付費工作時間,你的老闆都有權檢查上,無論您最多與該公司的資源,我剛才所提到的。 I think that makes a lot of sense.我認為,作出了很多重要意義。 You should always fight for your rights, but you had better also put yourself in your boss’ shoes for a while if you really want to have a clear view of the issue.你要始終爭取到您的權利,但是你最好也把自己在你的老闆'鞋,而如果你真的想有一個明確的看法的問題。
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But there are other issues, like information leak/stealing.但除此以外,還有其他問題,例如信息洩漏/竊取。 Many computers have disabled and forbidden the use of USB ports and thumb drives.許多電腦已經停用,並禁止使用USB連接埠和拇指驅動器。 They are afraid of what an employee can bring or take home in one of those things.他們害怕什麼樣的僱員可以帶來或採取的家中的事情之一。 I have a friend who works in a law firm where the IT staff will bend over backwards to prevent any kind of external mail access at all including Web mail, although access to most WWW sites is allowed.我有一個朋友,誰工程,在一家律師事務所的地方,它的工作人員將彎腰向後,以防止任何形式的外部郵件訪問在所有人,包括網絡郵件,雖然獲得大多數的WWW網站是不允許的。 They probably don’t want people sending or receiving anything unless it goes through the company’s corporate mail which is monitored, of course.他們可能不想讓人們傳送或接收什麼,除非它是通過該公司的企業郵箱是監測,當然。 She used to be required to use a dedicated machine in a separate room to access her personal mail.她用須使用專用的機器在一個單獨的房間,以獲得她的個人郵件。 Now that is forbidden too.現在是被禁止的。 She has been seriously considering buying a Blackberry just so she can access her personal Web mail!她一直認真考慮購買黑莓只是,讓她可以訪問她的個人網頁郵件! Which brings an interesting question: how fair is it to completely cut your employees’ access to the external world as if they didn’t have a private life?這帶來了一個有趣的問題:如何公平的是,它完全削減您的員工獲得外部世界的作為,如果他們沒有一個私人的生活? Similarly, many companies don’t even allow workers to have cell phones with cameras because they could arguably photograph information and take it outside.同樣地,許多公司甚至不容許工人有手機與相機,因為他們可以說是照片信息,並採取之外。
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You can’t take sides on that kind of issue easily.你不能採取雙方對這樣的問題很容易。 I completely agree that the boss has the right to take precautions, but I also think that these measures are often too harsh, unfair and ineffective.我完全同意,老闆有權利採取預防措施,但我也認為這些措施往往過於苛刻,不公平的和無效的。 I bet I could smuggle information out of any of these ultra secure offices if I worked in one of them and IF I really wanted to do it.我敢打賭,我可以偷運出來的資料,任何這些超安全的辦事處,如果我的工作,其中一人,如果我真的想這樣做。 I bet that happens a lot.我敢打賭,這種情況發生了很多。 But then again, that doesn’t mean the companies should just let employees do whatever the hell they want.不過,這並不意味著該公司應讓員工為所欲為,地獄他們希望。 It’sa tough issue.這是嚴峻的問題。
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The only thing I really can’t agree with is the bullshit factor.只有一件事我實在不能同意是布爾什特因素。 Terrorism?恐怖主義? Come on.來對。 Just say “it’s my damn company and my damn computers” and we’ll understand.只是說“這是我的可惡的公司和我的可惡的電腦”我們就會明白。 There is no need to insult our intelligence.有沒有必要侮辱我們的智慧。
April 14th, 2008 09:11 2008年4月14日9時11分
Correction: “Many COMPANIES have disabled and forbidden the use of USB ports and thumb drives.”更正: “許多公司已禁用和禁止使用USB連接埠和拇指驅動器” 。
April 14th, 2008 10:27 2008年4月14日10時27分
Company email monitoring has, as far as I know, always been in place here in Canada, and in many other places around the world.公司的電子郵件監測,據我所知,一直在這裡,在加拿大,並且在許多其他地方的世界各地。 Using corporate email accounts does not entitle you to any privacy, as IT departments have to make sure it’s been used for professional purposes.用公司的電子郵件帳戶沒有有權您的任何隱私,因為它部門,以確保它的被用於專業用途。
Granted, if I start complaining about the boss to a co-worker, I would hope the email would not be held against me, but corporate emails are meant for professional reasons, not to rant and rave and sign up for the latest porn site.理所當然的,如果我開始抱怨老闆,一個合作的工作者,我希望的電子郵件將不會舉行,逆我者,但公司的電子郵件是指為專業的原因,而不是rant和狂野派對,並簽署了有關最新的色情網站。
April 14th, 2008 10:38 2008年4月14日10時38分
Don’t know about Australia, but in the US, corporations have a direct responsibility for what goes through their email system.不知道澳大利亞,但在美國,公司有直接的責任,什麼是通過他們的電子郵件系統。 For instance, offensive spam can be, and has been, grounds for lawsuits.舉例來說,進攻性的垃圾郵件可以,並已,訴訟的理由。 As another example, a company “allowing” internal offensive emails can be held responsible for them.另一個例子是,一家公司“ ,允許”內部進攻性的電子郵件能如期舉行負責。 The US’s “Gimme, Gimme By Litigation” attitude has made this mandatory.美的“給我,給我訴訟”的態度,制定了這是強制性的。 It’s got zip to do with Freedom Of Anything, Civil Liberties, or any other buzzwords that people like to chant.它的獲得郵編做什麼的自由,公民自由,或任何其他buzzwords ,人們想高唱。 According to US law, a corporation is directoly responsible for the content of its email- therefore said company has the right and the responsibility to police it.按照美國法律,一家公司是directoly內容負責其電子郵件,所以說,公司有權利和責任向警方。
Don’t like it?不喜歡它呢? Too bad.太差。 That’s what frivolous lawsuits get you.這是什麼無聊的訴訟,讓您。
In Australia, I have no idea.在澳大利亞,我不知道。 I know nothing of the condition of litigation there, but if it’s as bad as it is here, you’ll just have to learn to live with it.我知道,沒有條件的訴訟,但如果它的壞,因為這是在這裡,您可以只是去學習生活。
April 14th, 2008 15:55 2008年4月14日15時55分
I guess the defining point is that whatever is stored or sent through your company’s email system is considered ‘property’ of the company.我猜想確定的一點是,無論是存儲或發送,通過貴公司的電子郵件系統被認為是'財產'的公司。 I could be wrong but there are some employment/nondisclosure agreements that sometimes state it as such.我可以是錯誤的,但也有一些就業/保密協議,有時它作為國家等。 And I can see how “intellectual property” and “stored on physical company computers” can be broad-brushed to constrain limits of your privacy while in the office.我可以看到,如何“知識產權”和“存儲在物理公司電腦” ,可廣泛擦肩而過的制約限制,您的隱私,而在辦公室裡。
If you were to ask me if a company snooping on its employee’s email that is stored on company-owned servers is considered a violation of privacy, I’m not sure I would be inclined to say “yes.” That’s because I know that my privacy and right to privacy are a lot different in the office than my privacy and right to privacy when it comes to my home.如果你問我如果一間公司窺探就其員工的電子郵件是儲存在公司擁有的服務器被認為是侵犯了隱私權,我不知道我會傾向於說“是” 。這是因為我知道我的隱私和私隱權是有很多不同,在辦公室比我的隱私權和私隱權,當談到我的家。 I certainly understand how far my privacy goes when it comes to my employer versus when it comes to my bedroom.我當然明白多遠我的隱私去當談到我的雇主銀兩,當談到我的臥室。
Conversely, I would scream bloody murder if my ISP were to read my email but if my employer were to do the same, I wouldn’t be surprised nor would I be offended.反過來說,我想尖叫,血腥的謀殺案,如果我的ISP要看過我的電子郵件,但如果我的雇主也這樣做,我不會感到驚訝,也沒有,我會被冒犯。 The guideline is that while working at a company, you’re about as much in the public because you are a representative of your firm than in private.該指引是,雖然工作在一間公司,您即將之多,在公共,因為你是一個代表您的公司,比在私人樓宇。
April 16th, 2008 08:48 2008年4月16日8時48分
Thankyou all so much for your feedback. “感謝所有這麼多,為您的反饋意見。 I will keep you updated as the political progress continues… but it looks like it might be a done thing…我將隨時向你更新的政治繼續取得進展… …但它看起來似乎是一個做的事…
April 17th, 2008 08:16 2008年4月17日8時16分
Thing is - if you call you’re boss a wanker on internal email you’re just asking for someone to forward it to his internal email - which will, of course, be linked to his corporate blackberry.一點是-如果您打電話給您的老闆一w anker對內部電子郵件您只是要求別人轉發給他的內部電子郵件-這將,當然,掛他的公司的黑莓。
If you don’t like your boss then in Australia we generally do one of three things:如果你不喜歡你的老闆,然後在澳大利亞我們一般做一個三件事:
1)Tell him 1 )告訴他,
2)Get a new job 2 )獲得一份新的工作
3)Chuck a lot of sickies 3 )查了很多sickies
You guess which is more common你猜這是較為常見的
April 17th, 2008 11:26 2008年4月17日11時26分
A question for a legal mind out there on this subject.一個問題,一個法律介意有這個問題。
Say, for example I use my own private email account for work purposes (which I do).Whether it be a free account (ie Yahoo) or paid (ie .Mac).舉例說,我用我自己的私人電子郵件帳戶為工作目的(我) 。是否是一個免費帳戶(即雅虎)或有償(即的。 Mac ) 。 All of the hardware (ei BlackBerry and MacBook) belongs to me but the wireless connection is paid by the boss.所有的硬件評價( EI黑莓和MacBook )屬於我,但無線連接的是所付出的老闆。 If I was to send something derogatory about the boss over that account to a work mate can this be used in a legal case for dismissal ?如果我是送的東西貶約老闆超過該帳戶的工作伴侶,這可以用來在一個法律案,為被解僱? (This is all theory and NOT something I have done…or will do. But would be interested to find out where one stands in this situation) (這是所有理論和不是我做了… …或將盡,但將有興趣,找出其中一人主張在這種情況下)
Thanks for any help…感謝任何幫助…
Kindest Regards關於kindest
Greg Myers格雷格邁爾斯
April 17th, 2008 11:45 2008年4月17日11時45分
I say use your Blackberry for that, and stay away from India!我這樣說,使用您的黑莓為,並遠離印度!
April 23rd, 2008 13:29 2008年4月23日13時29分
A company email system belongs to the company, not the employee.一家公司的電子郵件系統,屬於該公司,而不是僱員。 I believe that has been legally established by lawsuits too.我相信,已合法設立的由訴訟。 And like was said, if you’re going to say something STOOPID in company email, IMHO you deserve the consequences.像有人說,如果您去說一些stoopid在公司的電子郵件, imho你應得的後果。