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Rant ; Where’s our privacy !!! rant ;那里的我们的隐私!

利奥- wanker - 2.jpg

Now anyone who follows my articles knows I don’t get upset very easily.现在,只要谁如下我的文章知道我不破坏,很容易。 In fact, I can’t remember the last time I wrote a Rant.事实上,我不记得我最后一次写了一rant 。

But this has really steamed me up so I thought I would write about it.但是,这真的蒸箱,使我以为我会写它。

Now for those who don’t know, Australia is a Free country.现在对于谁不知道,澳洲是一个自由的国度。 (As free, if not more so than the US or Canada). (免费,如果不是更比美国或加拿大) 。 The new Australian government has decided to introduce new legislation to give employers the right to check any or all emails sent or received by their employees on work email addresses without your knowledge.新的澳洲政府已决定引入新法例,让雇主有权检查任何或所有的电子邮件发送或接收他们的雇员对工作的电子邮件地址,没有您的知识。 The excuse, Cyber-Terrorism… Now I’ve got no problem with all the security upgrades worldwide since 9/11 but this is my eyes is going too far.借口,网络恐怖主义…现在我已经没有得到任何问题,所有的安全升级,在全世界自从9 / 11 ,但,这是我的眼睛是太远。 What happened to privacy???所发生的隐私权? ? ? What happened to civil rights???所发生的民事权利? ? ? What happened to freedom of speech???所发生的言论自由? ? ?

No more are we going to be able to call the boss a ‘wanker’ in inter-office emails.没有更多的是我们要能够呼吁老板' wanker '在跨办公室的电子邮件。 (If you don’t know what ‘wanker’ means hit this link ;  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanker . And yes, the picture above is of a young Paul Hogan in character as one of his personas, Leo Wanker). (如果您不知道什么' wanker '是指达到此链接; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wanker 。和是的,以上图片是一位年轻的保罗霍根在性格,他的一个personas ,利奥wanker ) 。 Now, most of us are guilty of saying a bad word or two about the boss to peers in the workplace.现在,我们大多数人都是有罪的说法一个坏字或两个约老板同行在工作场所。 Some of this conversation usually spills over into emails.Now, would you send that same email if there was a chance your boss might intercept it?一些此会话通常溢漏到emails.now ,你会发送相同的电子邮件,如果有一个机会,你的老板可能拦截? Probably not…大概不会…

Don’t get me wrong, some work places need to monitor emails for security purposes.不要误会我的意思,有些工作场所的需要监测的电子邮件为了安全起见。 (Law enforcement, security institutions and military installations are just a couple that come to mind). (执法,安全机构和军事设施只是一对夫妇来记) 。 But in your stock standard law firm or accounting company I feel that tyrant type bosses are going to take advantage of this new power.但在您的库存标准的律师事务所或会计公司,我觉得暴君型的老板是要利用这一新的权力。

An example would be;一个例子会;

(Before the new law) (这项新法令实施前)

”Hi Tony,The boss has really been riding me in the last week. “嗨,托尼,老板真的一直骑在我的最后一个星期。 If the bastard would start to work on the project at hand more than his bloody golf handycap then life would be a heap easier…如果王八将开始该项目的工作在手比他更血腥的高尔夫球场,然后handycap生活将是一个更容易堆积…

Take CareFred”采取carefred “

(After the new law) (后新的法律)

”Dear Mr Anthony J Wright, “亲爱的议员,张炳良j赖特

Sorry for not replying to your inter office emails for the last week or so.对不起,不回答您的跨办公室电子邮件的最后一个星期或如此。 I have several meetings this morning but am totally on top of the situation.我曾数次会议,今天上午,但绝对对顶端的情况。

By the way, I heard it around the office that Mr (Insert bosses name here) is a fantastic golfer and could hold his own with the likes of Tiger Woods.由顺便说一下,我听到办公室周围先生(插入老板的姓名在这里)是一次精彩绝伦的高尔夫和可容纳自己与喜欢的老虎伍兹。

Anyway, work to do…无论如何,工作要做…

Yours Sincerely,此致,

Mr Frederick Wrong.”冯检错“ 。

Ok, I will get off my soapbox now and open up the floor. Do you agree with this type of security upgrade or not?确定,我会下车,我的表演,现在和开放在地上。你是否同意这种类型的安全升级或不? (And is there any such legislation and where else?)(Or am I just way out of line and should just submit to loosing another part of my privacy?) Comment away… (和是否有任何这样的立法和什么地方呢? ) (或我刚才的方式脱节,并应提交给刚刚松动的另一部分,我的隐私权? )评论:远离…

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  • 1
    Ron 朗恩。
    April 14th, 2008 06:39 2008年4月14日6时39分

    As far as I know, this practice has been going on for quite some time now in the US.据我所知,这种做法已持续了一段时间,现在在美国。 Seems to me that it has been determined in US Court that employers, who own the email system, have a legal right to check out any email that goes through their system.在我看来,它已决定在美国法院认为,雇主,谁自己的电子邮件系统,有一个法律的权利,签出任何的电子邮件,通过他们的系统。 I’m not agreeing with this myself, but I prefer web mail (Google, Yahoo, etc.) to send personal messages to my family, and speak face to face when possible with my coworkers.我不同意这个自己,但我宁愿网络邮件( Google ,雅虎等) ,以传送个人信息,我的家人,和发言,面对面时,可能与我的同事们。 Unfortunately, web mail at work seems to act up more than at home, leading me to believe something or someone is messing with that too.不幸的是, Web Mail的工作似乎行为多于在家里,导致我相信某事或某人是梅辛与太。

  • 2
    Robb (RIMarkable) 罗伯( rimarkable )
    April 14th, 2008 06:40 2008年4月14日06:40

    Well Greg,以及格雷格,

    Corporate email monitoring has is pretty much the standard here in the States, however, I think “security” has little to do with it.企业电子邮件的监测已是非常的标准在这里,在美国,不过,我认为“安全”已不大用它做。 It is par for course that most companies monitor email especially after the Enron / Arther Anderson fiasco from a few years ago.这是杆为当然,大部分的公司监控电子邮件,尤其是后安然/ arther安德森混乱,从几年前。

    Maybe the difference here is that your are saying this is happening “without the employees knowledge”.也许在这里的差别是,您说这是发生“没有雇员的知识” 。 Most corporate email policies here in America clearly state that corporate email may be monitored, but, once again, this has little to do with security.大多数公司的电子邮件政策在美国的明确说明,公司的电子邮件,可监测,但再次,这没有什么与安全。

  • 3
    Greg Myers 格雷格迈尔斯
    April 14th, 2008 06:51 2008年4月14日6时51分

    Sorry about the formatting of the post but having a few problems with Safari talking to Wordpress..遗憾的格式后,但有几个问题的Safari交谈的WordPress ..

  • 4
    Ron 朗恩。
    April 14th, 2008 07:15 2008年4月14日7时15分

    I’ll add that in the US personal blogs verbally insulting a persons employers, to my knowledge, have been the reason that at least one company has fired its employee, once that company found out who wrote the blog.我会补充一点,就是在美国的个人博客口头侮辱,一人,雇主,据我所知,已原因,至少有一个公司已发射了它的雇员,一旦该公司发现,谁写的博客。 This was not even on a company server.这是不是即使在公司的伺服器。 It wouldn’t surprise me if this has happened several times in the resent past.它会不会感到奇怪,我如果出现这种情况几倍,在过去的反感。

  • 5
    Robert Lee 罗伯特李
    April 14th, 2008 07:58 2008年4月14日7时58分

    The current administration in the United States has set civil liberties back 50 years, all in the name of fighting terrorism.目前,政府当局在美国已成立公民自由回到50年来,在所有的名称,打击恐怖主义。 It is people like you and our fearless librarians in this country that question such policies and fight endlessly to preserve true freedom.这是人民一样,您和我们的无畏无惧,馆员在这个国家,这个问题,这些政策和无休止的斗争,以维护真正的自由。 Keep calling in question such policies, you are doing the right thing, and everyones freedoms will be preserved.继续呼吁有问题的这些政策,你是做正确的事,和everyones自由将被保留。

    Robert罗伯特

  • 6
    Neil 尼尔
    April 14th, 2008 08:03 2008年4月14日8时03分

    It’sa non-event.这非活动。 Read:内容如下:
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=521210&cid=23060106

    Whole thing has been hyped by the media and dumb journalists to be something it’s not.整个事情已经夸大了由媒体和哑巴记者要的东西,它的不是。

    Case closed个案结束 : )

  • 7
    What's happening to our privacy !!! 究竟发生了我们的隐私! - BlackBerry Forums -黑莓论坛
    April 14th, 2008 09:07 2008年4月14日9时07分

    [...] Originally Posted by Gregmyers I actually posted this on BerryReview before I posted here. [ … … ]最初张贴由gregmyers其实我张贴,这对berryreview之前,我在此张贴。 I am getting some interesting comments back from the US where this has been the norm for some time… Here is a link for everyone to this article on BerryReview: Rant ; Where’s our privacy !!!我收到了一些有趣的评论,回到从美国那里,这一直是规范了一段时间…这里是一个链接,让大家此文章对berryreview : rant ;那里的我们的隐私! | BerryReview [...] | berryreview [ … … ]

  • 8八月
    Luciano ES 卢西亚诺部
    April 14th, 2008 09:08 2008年4月14日9时08分

    Great tip, Neil!伟大的秘诀,尼尔!
    .
    This issue has many facets.这个问题是多方面的。 Here in Brazil, where terrorism is never an issue (yet), the prevailing argument is that if the company owns the building, the network, the bandwidth, the computer and your paid working hours, your boss has every right to check up on whatever you’re up to with the company’s resources I just mentioned.这里在巴西,恐怖主义是从来没有的问题, (但) ,普遍的说法是,如果该公司拥有的建设,网络,带宽,计算机和您的付费工作时间,你的老板都有权检查上,无论您最多与该公司的资源,我刚才所提到的。 I think that makes a lot of sense.我认为,作出了很多重要意义。 You should always fight for your rights, but you had better also put yourself in your boss’ shoes for a while if you really want to have a clear view of the issue.你要始终争取到您的权利,但是你最好也把自己在你的老板'鞋,而如果你真的想有一个明确的看法的问题。
    .
    But there are other issues, like information leak/stealing.但除此以外,还有其他问题,例如信息泄漏/窃取。 Many computers have disabled and forbidden the use of USB ports and thumb drives.许多电脑已经停用,并禁止使用USB连接埠和拇指驱动器。 They are afraid of what an employee can bring or take home in one of those things.他们害怕什么样的雇员可以带来或采取的家中的事情之一。 I have a friend who works in a law firm where the IT staff will bend over backwards to prevent any kind of external mail access at all including Web mail, although access to most WWW sites is allowed.我有一个朋友,谁工程,在一家律师事务所的地方,它的工作人员将弯腰向后,以防止任何形式的外部邮件访问在所有人,包括网络邮件,虽然获得大多数的WWW网站是不允许的。 They probably don’t want people sending or receiving anything unless it goes through the company’s corporate mail which is monitored, of course.他们可能不想让人们传送或接收什么,除非它是通过该公司的企业邮箱是监测,当然。 She used to be required to use a dedicated machine in a separate room to access her personal mail.她用须使用专用的机器在一个单独的房间,以获得她的个人邮件。 Now that is forbidden too.现在是被禁止的。 She has been seriously considering buying a Blackberry just so she can access her personal Web mail!她一直认真考虑购买黑莓只是,让她可以访问她的个人网页邮件! Which brings an interesting question: how fair is it to completely cut your employees’ access to the external world as if they didn’t have a private life?这带来了一个有趣的问题:如何公平的是,它完全削减您的员工获得外部世界的作为,如果他们没有一个私人的生活? Similarly, many companies don’t even allow workers to have cell phones with cameras because they could arguably photograph information and take it outside.同样地,许多公司甚至不容许工人有手机与相机,因为他们可以说是照片信息,并采取之外。
    .
    You can’t take sides on that kind of issue easily.你不能采取双方对这样的问题很容易。 I completely agree that the boss has the right to take precautions, but I also think that these measures are often too harsh, unfair and ineffective.我完全同意,老板有权利采取预防措施,但我也认为这些措施往往过于苛刻,不公平的和无效的。 I bet I could smuggle information out of any of these ultra secure offices if I worked in one of them and IF I really wanted to do it.我敢打赌,我可以偷运出来的资料,任何这些超安全的办事处,如果我的工作,其中一人,如果我真的想这样做。 I bet that happens a lot.我敢打赌,这种情况发生了很多。 But then again, that doesn’t mean the companies should just let employees do whatever the hell they want.不过,这并不意味着该公司应让员工为所欲为,地狱他们希望。 It’sa tough issue.这是严峻的问题。
    .
    The only thing I really can’t agree with is the bullshit factor.只有一件事我实在不能同意是布尔什特因素。 Terrorism?恐怖主义? Come on.来对。 Just say “it’s my damn company and my damn computers” and we’ll understand.只是说“这是我的可恶的公司和我的可恶的电脑”我们就会明白。 There is no need to insult our intelligence.有没有必要侮辱我们的智慧。

  • 9
    Luciano ES 卢西亚诺部
    April 14th, 2008 09:11 2008年4月14日9时11分

    Correction: “Many COMPANIES have disabled and forbidden the use of USB ports and thumb drives.”更正: “许多公司已禁用和禁止使用USB连接埠和拇指驱动器” 。

  • 10 10月
    Lonnie lonnie
    April 14th, 2008 10:27 2008年4月14日10时27分

    Company email monitoring has, as far as I know, always been in place here in Canada, and in many other places around the world.公司的电子邮件监测,据我所知,一直在这里,在加拿大,并且在许多其他地方的世界各地。 Using corporate email accounts does not entitle you to any privacy, as IT departments have to make sure it’s been used for professional purposes.用公司的电子邮件帐户没有有权您的任何隐私,因为它部门,以确保它的被用于专业用途。
    Granted, if I start complaining about the boss to a co-worker, I would hope the email would not be held against me, but corporate emails are meant for professional reasons, not to rant and rave and sign up for the latest porn site.理所当然的,如果我开始抱怨老板,一个合作的工作者,我希望的电子邮件将不会举行,逆我者,但公司的电子邮件是指为专业的原因,而不是rant和狂野派对,并签署了有关最新的色情网站。 ;-)

  • 11 11月
    Matt 马特
    April 14th, 2008 10:38 2008年4月14日10时38分

    Don’t know about Australia, but in the US, corporations have a direct responsibility for what goes through their email system.不知道澳大利亚,但在美国,公司有直接的责任,什么是通过他们的电子邮件系统。 For instance, offensive spam can be, and has been, grounds for lawsuits.举例来说,进攻性的垃圾邮件可以,并已,诉讼的理由。 As another example, a company “allowing” internal offensive emails can be held responsible for them.另一个例子是,一家公司“ ,允许”内部进攻性的电子邮件能如期举行负责。 The US’s “Gimme, Gimme By Litigation” attitude has made this mandatory.美的“给我,给我诉讼”的态度,制定了这是强制性的。 It’s got zip to do with Freedom Of Anything, Civil Liberties, or any other buzzwords that people like to chant.它的获得邮编做什么的自由,公民自由,或任何其他buzzwords ,人们想高唱。 According to US law, a corporation is directoly responsible for the content of its email- therefore said company has the right and the responsibility to police it.按照美国法律,一家公司是directoly内容负责其电子邮件,所以说,公司有权利和责任向警方。

    Don’t like it?不喜欢它呢? Too bad.太差。 That’s what frivolous lawsuits get you.这是什么无聊的诉讼,让您。

    In Australia, I have no idea.在澳大利亚,我不知道。 I know nothing of the condition of litigation there, but if it’s as bad as it is here, you’ll just have to learn to live with it.我知道,没有条件的诉讼,但如果它的坏,因为这是在这里,您可以只是去学习生活。

  • 12 12月
    haephaestus haephaestus
    April 14th, 2008 15:55 2008年4月14日15时55分

    I guess the defining point is that whatever is stored or sent through your company’s email system is considered ‘property’ of the company.我猜想确定的一点是,无论是存储或发送,通过贵公司的电子邮件系统被认为是'财产'的公司。 I could be wrong but there are some employment/nondisclosure agreements that sometimes state it as such.我可以是错误的,但也有一些就业/保密协议,有时它作为国家等。 And I can see how “intellectual property” and “stored on physical company computers” can be broad-brushed to constrain limits of your privacy while in the office.我可以看到,如何“知识产权”和“存储在物理公司电脑” ,可广泛擦肩而过的制约限制,您的隐私,而在办公室里。

    If you were to ask me if a company snooping on its employee’s email that is stored on company-owned servers is considered a violation of privacy, I’m not sure I would be inclined to say “yes.” That’s because I know that my privacy and right to privacy are a lot different in the office than my privacy and right to privacy when it comes to my home.如果你问我如果一间公司窥探就其员工的电子邮件是储存在公司拥有的服务器被认为是侵犯了隐私权,我不知道我会倾向于说“是” 。这是因为我知道我的隐私和私隐权是有很多不同,在办公室比我的隐私权和私隐权,当谈到我的家。 I certainly understand how far my privacy goes when it comes to my employer versus when it comes to my bedroom.我当然明白多远我的隐私去当谈到我的雇主银两,当谈到我的卧室。

    Conversely, I would scream bloody murder if my ISP were to read my email but if my employer were to do the same, I wouldn’t be surprised nor would I be offended.反过来说,我想尖叫,血腥的谋杀案,如果我的ISP要看过我的电子邮件,但如果我的雇主也这样做,我不会感到惊讶,也没有,我会被冒犯。 The guideline is that while working at a company, you’re about as much in the public because you are a representative of your firm than in private.该指引是,虽然工作在一间公司,您即将之多,在公共,因为你是一个代表您的公司,比在私人楼宇。

  • 13 13日
    Greg Myers 格雷格迈尔斯
    April 16th, 2008 08:48 2008年4月16日8时48分

    Thankyou all so much for your feedback. “感谢所有这么多,为您的反馈意见。 I will keep you updated as the political progress continues… but it looks like it might be a done thing…我将随时向你更新的政治继续取得进展… …但它看起来似乎是一个做的事…

  • 14 14日
    Ben
    April 17th, 2008 08:16 2008年4月17日8时16分

    Thing is - if you call you’re boss a wanker on internal email you’re just asking for someone to forward it to his internal email - which will, of course, be linked to his corporate blackberry.一点是-如果您打电话给您的老板一w anker对内部电子邮件您只是要求别人转发给他的内部电子邮件-这将,当然,挂他的公司的黑莓。

    If you don’t like your boss then in Australia we generally do one of three things:如果你不喜欢你的老板,然后在澳大利亚我们一般做一个三件事:
    1)Tell him 1 )告诉他,
    2)Get a new job 2 )获得一份新的工作
    3)Chuck a lot of sickies 3 )查了很多sickies

    You guess which is more common你猜这是较为常见的 :对

  • 15 15日
    Greg Myers 格雷格迈尔斯
    April 17th, 2008 11:26 2008年4月17日11时26分

    A question for a legal mind out there on this subject.一个问题,一个法律介意有这个问题。
    Say, for example I use my own private email account for work purposes (which I do).Whether it be a free account (ie Yahoo) or paid (ie .Mac).举例说,我用我自己的私人电子邮件帐户为工作目的(我) 。是否是一个免费帐户(即雅虎)或有偿(即的。 Mac ) 。 All of the hardware (ei BlackBerry and MacBook) belongs to me but the wireless connection is paid by the boss.所有的硬件评价( EI黑莓和MacBook )属于我,但无线连接的是所付出的老板。 If I was to send something derogatory about the boss over that account to a work mate can this be used in a legal case for dismissal ?如果我是送的东西贬约老板超过该帐户的工作伴侣,这可以用来在一个法律案,为被解雇? (This is all theory and NOT something I have done…or will do. But would be interested to find out where one stands in this situation) (这是所有理论和不是我做了… …或将尽,但将有兴趣,找出其中一人主张在这种情况下)
    Thanks for any help…感谢任何帮助…
    Kindest Regards关于kindest
    Greg Myers格雷格迈尔斯

  • 16 16日
    Luciano ES 卢西亚诺部
    April 17th, 2008 11:45 2008年4月17日11时45分

    I say use your Blackberry for that, and stay away from India!我这样说,使用您的黑莓为,并远离印度! ;-)

  • 17 17日
    David B 朱b
    April 23rd, 2008 13:29 2008年4月23日13时29分

    A company email system belongs to the company, not the employee.一家公司的电子邮件系统,属于该公司,而不是雇员。 I believe that has been legally established by lawsuits too.我相信,已合法设立的由诉讼。 And like was said, if you’re going to say something STOOPID in company email, IMHO you deserve the consequences.像有人说,如果您去说一些stoopid在公司的电子邮件, imho你应得的后果。

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