Comments on: GPS-enabled BlackBerry Curve 8310 in Brazil http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/ BlackBerry News and Reviews You Can Use Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:51:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robert http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-17796 Robert Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:07:59 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-17796 Desculpem-me por não falar bem Português, sou um estrangeiro. Estou usando Vivo. Eu não preciso usar o programa especial da Vivo. Tudo que fiz foi fazer o download do Google Maps, e ele trabalhou para mim sem nenhum problema. Creio que eu fui ao site m.google.com/mapas a partir do telefone, e ele funcionou. Não sei se existe um site para isso em Português. Desculpem-me por não falar bem Português, sou um estrangeiro.

Estou usando Vivo. Eu não preciso usar o programa especial da Vivo. Tudo que fiz foi fazer o download do Google Maps, e ele trabalhou para mim sem nenhum problema. Creio que eu fui ao site m.google.com/mapas a partir do telefone, e ele funcionou.

Não sei se existe um site para isso em Português.

]]> By: gilvan http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-17539 gilvan Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:54:33 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-17539 ola pessoal eu quero ativar o gps do meu blackberry da claro como devo proceder ola pessoal eu quero ativar o gps do meu blackberry da claro como devo proceder

]]> By: Robert http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-10413 Robert Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:33:50 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-10413 I now have my Blackberry up and running! Now we all know for sure that an unlocked BB from outside the country will work as it should in Brazil. Of course, I had a little help... I was told that the BB had a previous account stuck into it, so it required customer service to configure the email correctly. Thanks again!!! I now have my Blackberry up and running! Now we all know for sure that an unlocked BB from outside the country will work as it should in Brazil. Of course, I had a little help… I was told that the BB had a previous account stuck into it, so it required customer service to configure the email correctly.

Thanks again!!!

]]> By: Luciano ES http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-10232 Luciano ES Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:35:54 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-10232 I've sent you an e-mail in private, Robert. Let's see if I can help. I’ve sent you an e-mail in private, Robert. Let’s see if I can help.

]]> By: Robert http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-10219 Robert Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:08:33 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-10219 Hello, I brought an unlocked, GPS-enabled Blackberry 8310 to Brazil, and for phone calls it's working fine. I decided to go with Vivo since they have the unlimited data plan. 2 questions: How the heck do I get the email set up? I have tried both options for existing accounts as well as for new accounts, and I go through the menus, only to have the website inform me that an account already exists, and then when I get to the registration part, I am told that my login information is incorrect. ??? Any ideas? Secondly, I decided to pay the 17 reais for the monthly GPS service (maybe I should have gone with Claro), and I downloaded the software successfully, but I don't see any features on the map. Does this take a long time to load, or is there something else that Vivo is doing to me to punish me for bringing my own BB to Brazil? Please help! Muito obrigado! Hello,

I brought an unlocked, GPS-enabled Blackberry 8310 to Brazil, and for phone calls it’s working fine. I decided to go with Vivo since they have the unlimited data plan.

2 questions: How the heck do I get the email set up? I have tried both options for existing accounts as well as for new accounts, and I go through the menus, only to have the website inform me that an account already exists, and then when I get to the registration part, I am told that my login information is incorrect. ??? Any ideas?

Secondly, I decided to pay the 17 reais for the monthly GPS service (maybe I should have gone with Claro), and I downloaded the software successfully, but I don’t see any features on the map. Does this take a long time to load, or is there something else that Vivo is doing to me to punish me for bringing my own BB to Brazil?

Please help!

Muito obrigado!

]]> By: Luciano ES http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-2210 Luciano ES Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:12:42 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-2210 Nikolaus: all telephony services in Brazil used to be run by state administrations. Each state had its own telephony department. These were sold to companies in a big privatization process. Then these companies merged, bought and sold like rabbits and only historians now can trace back the origins of each current carrier. The government decided there wouldn't be room for everybody in the spectrum, so the country was divided in a few regions and only a few carriers are allowed to operate in each region. Concessions are auctioned from time to time and carriers then have the opportunity to extend their coverage. I thik that also has the added benefit that the government rakes in a few billion dollars from the carriers with each auction. . You should be able to place and receive calls anywhere in the country. Incidentally, TIM is now the only carrier that covers the entire country after the latest auctions. Vivo also operates in many states. But you're subject to roaming fees. Whenever you leave your base city (indicated by your SIM number's area code), you're roaming. There is an extra fee for using the phone in other cities and another fee for using it in other states. Across states, you're likely to end up using another carrier's infrastructure, hence the premium. . The reason why your phone doesn't work in other states has to be something else. Maybe just quality (TIM is known for dropping signal or calls easily) or maybe you're required to call them up and expressly authorize certain things like roaming. Or maybe your SIM didn't have enough credits for receiving calls on roaming. Roaming fees also apply to calls you receive, and they are not cheap. . I am sorry if I am not clear enough. Cell phone plans are incredibly baroque, I would be lying if I told you that I really understand all the details or even all the main aspects of the entire system. The next time that happens to you, maybe your wife (in case you don't speak Portuguese) should contact the carrier and try to find out what is going on. Unfortunately, TIM has one of the worst reputations for support/assistance. It could be hours until you finally get to talk to someone, and getting wrong or discrepant information from their own staff is not at all unusual. Brazilians often insist on believing that this kind of shoddy service only happens in Brazil, but as I participate in the forums, now I realize it's just the same in the US and Canada. It really sucks, doesn't it? :-( Nikolaus: all telephony services in Brazil used to be run by state administrations. Each state had its own telephony department. These were sold to companies in a big privatization process. Then these companies merged, bought and sold like rabbits and only historians now can trace back the origins of each current carrier. The government decided there wouldn’t be room for everybody in the spectrum, so the country was divided in a few regions and only a few carriers are allowed to operate in each region. Concessions are auctioned from time to time and carriers then have the opportunity to extend their coverage. I thik that also has the added benefit that the government rakes in a few billion dollars from the carriers with each auction.
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You should be able to place and receive calls anywhere in the country. Incidentally, TIM is now the only carrier that covers the entire country after the latest auctions. Vivo also operates in many states. But you’re subject to roaming fees. Whenever you leave your base city (indicated by your SIM number’s area code), you’re roaming. There is an extra fee for using the phone in other cities and another fee for using it in other states. Across states, you’re likely to end up using another carrier’s infrastructure, hence the premium.
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The reason why your phone doesn’t work in other states has to be something else. Maybe just quality (TIM is known for dropping signal or calls easily) or maybe you’re required to call them up and expressly authorize certain things like roaming. Or maybe your SIM didn’t have enough credits for receiving calls on roaming. Roaming fees also apply to calls you receive, and they are not cheap.
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I am sorry if I am not clear enough. Cell phone plans are incredibly baroque, I would be lying if I told you that I really understand all the details or even all the main aspects of the entire system. The next time that happens to you, maybe your wife (in case you don’t speak Portuguese) should contact the carrier and try to find out what is going on. Unfortunately, TIM has one of the worst reputations for support/assistance. It could be hours until you finally get to talk to someone, and getting wrong or discrepant information from their own staff is not at all unusual. Brazilians often insist on believing that this kind of shoddy service only happens in Brazil, but as I participate in the forums, now I realize it’s just the same in the US and Canada. It really sucks, doesn’t it? :-(

]]> By: Luciano ES http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-2206 Luciano ES Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:38:42 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-2206 @Paula: so we have at least THREE other readers from Brazil, and counting! :-) Nice to meet you. . @Nikolaus: I'll get back to you later. @Paula: so we have at least THREE other readers from Brazil, and counting! :-) Nice to meet you.
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@Nikolaus: I’ll get back to you later.

]]> By: Nikolaus http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-2201 Nikolaus Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:21:03 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-2201 I am not Brazilian but my wife is and I've been about a dozen times. Can someone explain why none of the carriers are national, in that if I leave the state where I live my phone doesn't work in another state? TIM seems to work in more than one state, but on a pre-paid plan (remember I visit Brazil) people can no longer call me if I am not in my "home" state. How the heck so business people travel in Brazil? You'd need to carry a pocket full of SIM cards to make sure your phone works in every state. Also I agree that RIM has not enough presence there. I brought my 8320 (T-Mo) to Brazil and wanted to get a SIM card from TIM and they had no clue. I knew they sold the 8310 which is so similar, but still they had no clue what I was talking about. I did get it to work in the end, but without any help. I am not Brazilian but my wife is and I’ve been about a dozen times. Can someone explain why none of the carriers are national, in that if I leave the state where I live my phone doesn’t work in another state? TIM seems to work in more than one state, but on a pre-paid plan (remember I visit Brazil) people can no longer call me if I am not in my “home” state. How the heck so business people travel in Brazil? You’d need to carry a pocket full of SIM cards to make sure your phone works in every state.

Also I agree that RIM has not enough presence there. I brought my 8320 (T-Mo) to Brazil and wanted to get a SIM card from TIM and they had no clue. I knew they sold the 8310 which is so similar, but still they had no clue what I was talking about. I did get it to work in the end, but without any help.

]]> By: Paula http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-2200 Paula Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:09:18 +0000 http://www.berryreview.com/2008/03/13/gps-enabled-blackberry-curve-8310-in-brazil/#comment-2200 Heeyy, you are Brazilian?! I didn't know that! I'm Brazilian too and read this blog everyday!! It's great! I have a Blackberry 8310 by Claro and use the Nav4All GPS! It's very very good for the price (Free!). I simply HATE Vivo, really really hate them. They did nasty things with their clients in the past. Vivo lost many clients to TIM and Claro (at least here in Sao Paulo). Also, I would like to reinforce the fact that RIM should stand up for its presence in Brazil, where is the marketing?? I love my BB, but I also have an iPhone (TIM). I don't think iPhone threatens Blackberry YET, but in a near future, who knows? Specially if iPhone really supports Exchange accounts and third-party software. That's it... Keep up the good work! Bye. Paula Heeyy, you are Brazilian?! I didn’t know that! I’m Brazilian too and read this blog everyday!! It’s great!
I have a Blackberry 8310 by Claro and use the Nav4All GPS! It’s very very good for the price (Free!).
I simply HATE Vivo, really really hate them. They did nasty things with their clients in the past. Vivo lost many clients to TIM and Claro (at least here in Sao Paulo).
Also, I would like to reinforce the fact that RIM should stand up for its presence in Brazil, where is the marketing??
I love my BB, but I also have an iPhone (TIM). I don’t think iPhone threatens Blackberry YET, but in a near future, who knows? Specially if iPhone really supports Exchange accounts and third-party software.

That’s it… Keep up the good work!
Bye.
Paula

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