PodNova - Another Free Desktop Podcast Client podnova - ´Ù¸¥ ¹«·á ¹ÙÅÁ ȸé podcast Ŭ¶óÀ̾ðÆ®
After ÀÌÈÄ writing the article on how to listen to Podcasts on your BlackBerry ÀÌ ¹®¼ ÀÛ¼ºÀ»ÇÏ´Â ¹æ¹ýÀ» µéÀ¸·Á¸é °ËÀº Æ÷µå ij½ºÆ® I had Robin of PodNova bring to my attention that I had missed another free desktop client. ·ÎºóÀÇ podnova ³ª´Â ³» °ü½ÉÀ» ²ø±â Çù»óÀ» ³õÄ£ ÇÑ °Íµµ ¶Ç ´Ù¸¥ ¹«·á µ¥½ºÅ©Åé Ŭ¶óÀ̾ðÆ®ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. The Podcast website PodNova.com has a Podcast client for all 3 major OS¡¯s. podnova.com´Â Ŭ¶óÀÌ¾ðÆ®¿¡ podcast the podcast À¥»çÀÌÆ®ÀÇ ¸ðµç 3 ´ë ¿î¿µ üÁ¦°¡ÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
As Luc brought up in a comment on the above mentioned post there is no Juice desktop client for Linux. ·ó·Î ¼ºÀå À§¿¡ ÀǰßÀ» °Ô½ÃÇÒ ÁÖ½º µ¥½ºÅ©Åé Ŭ¶óÀÌ¾ðÆ®¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ¸®´ª½º°¡¾ø½À´Ï´Ù. Juice has promised support for quite awhile now but PodNova beat it to the punch. ÁÖ½º´Â ¾ÆÁÖ Àá½Ã Áö±Ý¿¡ ´ëÇÑ Áö¿øÀ» ¾à¼ÓÇÏÁö¸¸ ±×°ÍÀ» À̱æ podnova ÆÝÄ¡ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. The PodNova client supports Windows (2000, XP, Vista), Mac OSX 10.3 or higher, and Linux (w/ Python 2.5). the podnova Ŭ¶óÀÌ¾ðÆ®°¡ Áö¿ø â (2000, ºñ½ºÅ¸), ¸Æ osx 10.3 ÀÌ»ó, ±×¸®°í ¸®´ª½º (½Â / ÆÄÀ̽ã 2.5). You can download a copy for your OS at this link. ±ÍÇÏÀÇ ¿î¿µ üÁ¦¿¡¼ ´Ù¿î·ÎµåÇÏ½Ç ¼öÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù À§ÇØÀÌ ¸µÅ©¸¦ º¹»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
I have not had a chance to check it out throughly myself but PodNova is pretty reputable so I would check it out if Juice is not working or you just hate iTunes ³ª´Â ±âȸ°¡ ¾ø¾ú ³ª ÀÚ½ÅÀ» öÀúÇÏ°Ô È®ÀÎÇØ podnova´Â ¾ÆÁÖ ÁÁÀº ÆòÆÇÇÏÁö¸¸ ±×·¡¼ ³ ÁÖ½º°¡ ÀÛµ¿ÇÏÁö ¾Ê´Â °æ¿ì°¡ ¾Æ´Ï¸é È®ÀÎÇØ itunes ¹Ì¿öÇÏ´Â ±º
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December 26th, 2007 19:06 2007³â 12¿ù 26ÀÏ 19:06
Man, I was trying to avoid this topic and maybe look a little less bitchy and grumpy to your readers, but you mentioned my name and¡¦ oh dear. ³²ÀÚ, ³ª´ÂÀÌ ÁÖÁ¦¿¡ ÇÇÇÏ·Á°í ±×¸®°í ¾Æ¸¶µµ ´ç½ÅÀÇ ¾ó±¼ÀÌ ´ú ±î´Ù·Î¿î µ¶ÀÚ¿Í ½É¼úÀ»ÇßÁö¸¸ ³» À̸§À» ¾ð±ÞÇÏ°í¡¦ ÀÌ·±ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Here we go. ¿©±â¿¡ ¿ì¸®°¡ÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
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I hate Python apps. ÆÄÀ̽㠾ÖÇà ¸®ÄÉÀÌ¼Ç Á¤¸» ½È¾îÇÕ´Ï´Ù. They never really just rely on Python. ±×µéÀº °áÄÚ ÆÄÀ̽㠴ÜÁö¿¡ ÀÇÁ¸ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. They usually also require ±×µéÀº º¸Åëµµ ÇÊ¿ä
py-this Æò -ÀÌ
py-that Æò -°¡
py-thisonetoo Æò - thisonetoo
py-somethingelse Æò - somethingelse
py-optional (note: will not work work without it) Æò - ¼±Åà »çÇ× (Âü°í »çÇ× : ÀÛ¾÷¾øÀÌ´Â ÀÛµ¿ÇÏÁö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù)
py-dontforgetthis Æò - dontforgetthis
py-andalsothat Æò - andalsothat
py-ikidyounot Æò - ikidyounot
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OK, now I have downloaded this PodNova thing, which is not an installable package. ÀÚ, Áö±ÝÀºÀÌ podnova °Í ´Ù¿î·Îµå°¡ ¾Æ´Ñ °æ¿ì ÆÐŰÁö¸¦ ¼³Ä¡ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. It is a tarball instead. ±×°ÍÀº Ÿ¸£ º¼ ´ë½ÅÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Then we wonder why Linux never becomes popular¡¦ :-\ ±×·³ ¿Ö ¸®´ª½º°¡ °áÄÚ ÀαⰡ¡¦ : - \
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I still have no idea how many dependencies it will require to work. ³ªµµ ¾ÆÁ÷ ¸ð¸£°Ú ÀÇÁ¸¼ºÀÌ ¾ó¸¶³ª ¸¹Àº ÀÛ¾÷À» ÇÊ¿ä·ÎÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I¡¯ll find out as soon as I try to run it on a command line. ³ª´Â ¾Ë°Ô µÉ °Ì´Ï´Ù ¸¶ÀÚ Ä¿¸Çµå ¶óÀο¡¼ ±×°ÍÀ» ½ÇÇàÇÏ·Á°íÇÕ´Ï´Ù. But heck if I know how to install this thing! ÇÏÁö¸¸ÀÌ ÀÏÀº µµ¹«Áö¸¦ ¼³Ä¡ÇÏ´Â ¹æ¹ýÀ» ¾Ë°íÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù! Am I supposed to compile this thing? ÀÌ ¹°°ÇÀ» ÄÄÆÄÀÏÇÏ´Â °Ô ÁÁÀ»±î? It doesn¡¯t look like it. ÇÑ °Íó·³ º¸À̰ÔÇÏÁö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù. I open the tarball and there are 76 files in it. ³ª´Â Ÿ¸£ º¼À» ¿°í ÆÄÀÏÀ» ±×°ÍÀÌ 76. No sight of any ¡°make¡± or ¡°configure¡± files. ¾Æ´Ï¿À ±¤°æÀº ¸ðµç "À»"¶Ç´Â "±¸¼º"ÆÄÀÏÀ»ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I proceed to skim through the folder in search of a ¡°readme¡± file¡¦ No, there isn¡¯t any. ³ª´ÂÀÖ´Â Æú´õ¸¦ ã¾Æº¸´Â °Ë»öÀ» ÁøÇàÇÏ¿©, "Ãß°¡ Á¤º¸"ÆÄÀÏÀ»¡¦ ¾Æ´Ï, ±×·¸Áö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù. Oh! ¿À! Oh! ¿À! Maybe an ¡°install.txt¡± file! ¾î¼¸é, "install.txt"ÆÄÀÏÀ»! No, there isn¡¯t any. ¾Æ´Ï, ±×·¸Áö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù. A ¡°docs¡± folder¡¦ No, there isn¡¯t any either. "¿öµå ÇÁ·Î¼¼¼"Æú´õ¸¦¡¦ ¾Æ´Ï, ±× Áß Çϳª´Â ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù. Ha! ÇÏ! Here is an ¡°index.html¡± file! ¿©±â¿¡ "index.html"ÆÄÀÏÀ»! Hum. Èì. It won¡¯t open. ±×°Í°¡ ¿¸®Áö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù. I inspect it with a text editor. ÅØ½ºÆ® ÆíÁý±â¿¡¼ ³ª´Â ±×°ÍÀ» Á¡°ËÇÕ´Ï´Ù. It looks like a Web interface to PodNova (which apparently will run as a server when and IF I ever get this thing running). À¥ ÀÎÅÍÆäÀ̽º¸¦ podnovaó·³ º¸Àδ٠(ÀÌ ºÐ¸í ¼¹ö·Î ½ÇÇàµË´Ï´Ù ±×¸®°í ¸¸¾à ³»°¡ ¹Þ¾Æ º»ÀûÀÌ ÀÏÀ» ½ÇÇàÇÏ´Â °æ¿ì). There is a ¡°podnova-install.nsi¡± file. °Å±â´Â "podnova - install.nsi"ÆÄÀÏÀ»ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. NSI must be for Windows. windows¿¡ ´ëÇÑ nsiµÇ¾î¾ßÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Inspect it with text editor. ±×°ÍÀ» ÅØ½ºÆ® ÆíÁý±â¸¦ Á¡°ËÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Yes, it is for Windows. ±×·¸½À´Ï´Ù, ±×°ÍÀº windows. There is a ¡°PodNova.pyc¡± file. °Å±â´Â "podnova.pyc"ÆÄÀÏÀ»ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. It is binary. ÀÌ ¹ÙÀ̳ʸ®ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I make it executable and run it. ¾Æ¹«µµ ±×·¸°Ô ½ÇÇà ÆÄÀÏÀ» ½ÇÇàÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I get some short garbled output. ³ª´Â Á» ªÀº°¡ ±úÁ³½À Ãâ·ÂÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Oh, ¡°build_linux_pyc.pyc¡±. ¿À, "build_linux_pyc.pyc"ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. It¡¯s binary. ±×°ÍÀÇ ÀÌÁø. Let¡¯s run it! À» ½ÇÇàÇÏÀÚ! Short garbled output again. ªÀº ±úÁø »óŸ¦ ´Ù½Ã Ãâ·ÂÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I slap my forehead! ³ª´Â ³» À̸¶¿¡ ¶§·Á! Of course it doesn¡¯t have any instructions! ¹°·Ð ¸ðµç ÁöħÀ»°¡ ÇÊ¿äÇÏÁö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù! I am supposed to visit their Web site! ³ª´Â ±×µéÀÇ À¥ »çÀÌÆ®¸¦ ¹æ¹®Çؾß! Open source developers do that all the time: force us to go online to get the thing running, probably to read some manual in wiki format. ¿ÀÇ ¼Ò½º °³¹ßÀÚµéÀÌ ¸ðµÎ ±×·¸°Ô ½Ã°£ : °Á¦ ½ÇÇàÇÏ´Â ¹®Á¦¸¦ ¿Â¶óÀÎÀ¸·Î ¿ì¸®°¡ °¥, ¾Æ¸¶ ÀϺΠ¹®¼¸¦ ÀÐÀ» À§Å° Çü½ÄÀ¸·ÎÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Let¡¯s go! °©½Ã´Ù! I see ¡°Help Center¡±. ¾Ë°Ú´Â "µµ¿ò ¼¾ÅÍ"ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. This is it! ¹Ù·Î À̰ſ¡¿ä! Hum¡¦ ¡°Take the quicktour to learn more about blah blah blah¡¦¡± Nothing about installation. È졦 "Äü¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ÀÚ¼¼ÇÑ ³»¿ëÀ» Ÿ°í ¤» ¤» ¤» ¤»¡¦"´ç½ÅÀº ¾Æ¹« °Íµµ¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ¼³Ä¡¸¦ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Ah! ¾Æ! Frequently Asked Questions! ÀÚÁÖ ¹¯´Â Áú¹®! Hmm¡¦ Hmm¡¦ No mention of installation either¡¦ Hmm¡¦ Hmm¡¦ À½¡¦¡¦ À½ Áß ÇϳªÀÇ ¼³Ä¡¸¦ ¾ð±ÞÇÏÁö ¾Ê¾Ò À½¡¦ À½¡¦¡¦
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Pardon my manners, guys, but what the hell??? »ç¸é ³» ¸Å³Ê, Ä£±¸µé, ±×·¯³ª µµ´ëü°¡? Seriously, is this really developed by humans? ÁøÂ¥·Î, À̰÷Àº Á¤¸»·Î Àΰ£À» °³¹ßÇÑ? FOR humans? Àΰ£? Geez. ÀÌ·±ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Maybe it really works on Linux, but beware: requires CrystalBall.tar.gz. ¾Æ¸¶µµ ¸®´ª½º¿¡¼ ÁøÂ¥·Î ÀÛµ¿ÇÏÁö¸¸ÁÖÀÇ : crystalball.tar.gzÀÌ ÇÊ¿äÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Which I don¡¯t have. ¾î¶²ÀÌ ¾ø¾î¿ä.
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Grumble. Åõ´ú´ëÁÒ.
December 27th, 2007 10:08 2007³â 12¿ù 27ÀÏ 10:08
Yeah python has always been a pain in the¡¦ But I had a few people confirm that it works ³× ÆÄÀ̽㿡 Å« °íÅëÀº Ç×»ó ¸î »ç¶÷¡¦ ±×·¯³ª ³ª´Â ±×°Ô ÀÛµ¿ÇÏ´ÂÁö È®ÀÎ
December 29th, 2007 02:27 2007³â 12¿ù 29ÀÏ 02:27
Can someone advise how to install this software? ÀÌ ¼ÒÇÁÆ®¿þ¾î¸¦ ¼³Ä¡ÇÏ´Â ¹æ¹ýÀ» ¼öÀÖ´Â »ç¶÷ÀÌ Å뺸? Like luc-mobile, I don¡¯t have a clue. ·óó·³ - ¸ð¹ÙÀÏ, ³ ¾Æ¹«°Íµµ ¸ô¶óÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I¡¯ma newbie and so any help is very much appreciated. Àú´Â ¾î¶² µµ¿òÀ» ÁÖ½Ç ºÐÀº Ãʺ¸ÀÚ ±×·¡¼ ¾ÆÁÖ ¸¹ÀÌ °¨»çÇÒ °ÍÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
December 31st, 2007 13:26 2007³â 12¿ù 31ÀÏ 13:26
Honestly Python is beyond my understanding. ÆÄÀ̽ãÀº ³ªÀÇ ÀÌÇØ¸¦ ³Ñ¾î Á¤Á÷ÇϰÔÇÕ´Ï´Ù. All I know is how to install it and maintain it on a server level but even that is minimal. ³»°¡ ¾Æ´Â ÀüºÎ´Â ±×°ÍÀ» ¼³Ä¡ÇÏ´Â ¹æ¹ý¿¡ÀÖ´Â ¼¹ö ¼öÁØÀ» À¯ÁöÇϰíÀÖ´Â ÃÖ¼ÒÇÑÀÇ ±×·³¿¡µµ ºÒ±¸ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I never had much interest in it but I know many users who swear by it. ³ª´Â °áÄÚ ±×°ÍÀº Àß ¾Ë°í ½ÍÀÌ °ü½ÉÀÌ ¸¹Àº »ç¿ëÀÚµµ ±×°ÍÀ» ¸Í¼¼ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Let me see if I can get a friend to respond¡¦ ¾îµð º¸ÀÚ Ä£±¸¿¡°Ô ÀÀ´äÀ» ÀâÀ» ¼öÀִٸ顦
February 17th, 2008 15:35 2008³â 2¿ù 17ÀÏ 15:35
to launch: ¸¦ ½ÃÀÛ :
# python PodNova.pyc # ÆÄÀ̽ã podnova.pyc
February 17th, 2008 17:38 2008³â 2¿ù 17ÀÏ 17:38
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$[801]~> python /home/luc/progs/PodNova-2.4-linux-py25/PodNova.pyc $ [801] ~> ÆÄÀ̽ã / home/luc/progs/podnova-2.4-linux-py25/podnova.pyc
Exception: No module named wx ¿¹¿Ü : ¾Æ´Ï¿À ¸ðµâÀÇ À̸§ wx
In order to run PodNova Desktop Client, you need to have the wxPython library 2.6.3 or higher installed. podnova µ¥½ºÅ©Åé Ŭ¶óÀÌ¾ðÆ®¸¦ ½ÇÇàÇÏ·Á¸é, ´ç½ÅÀÌ ÇÊ¿ä·Î wxpython µµ¼°üÀº 2.6.3 ÀÌ»óÀÌ ¼³Ä¡µÇ¾î ÀÖ¾î¾ßÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
This library provides the GUI interface. ÀÌ ¶óÀ̺귯¸® ÀÎÅÍÆäÀ̽º¸¦ ±×·¡ÇÈ »ç¿ëÀÚ ÀÎÅÍÆäÀ̽º¸¦ Á¦°øÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
To download and install the wxPython library, please visit wxpython ¶óÀ̺귯¸®¸¦ ´Ù¿î·ÎµåÇÏ°í ¼³Ä¡¸¦ ¹æ¹®ÇϽñ⠹ٶø´Ï´Ù http://www.wxpython.org/download.php
Make sure you download and install the ¡®unicode¡¯ version of the library. È®ÀÎÀ» ´Ù¿î·ÎµåÇÏ°í ¼³Ä¡ÇÏ´Â 'À¯´Ï ÄÚµå'¹öÀüÀÇ ¶óÀ̺귯¸®ÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
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Apparently, installing wxPython-2.6.3.2 didn¡¯t help. Ʋ¸²¾øÀÌ, wxpython - 2.6.3.2 ¹®Á¦°¡ ÇØ°áµÇÁö ¾Ê´Â¸¦ ¼³Ä¡ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Neither did installing wxPython-2.8.6.1. ¾î´À ÇÑ wxpython - 2.8.6.1À» ¼³Ä¡ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Very typical of Python. ¸Å¿ì ÀüÇüÀûÀÎ ÆÄÀ̽ãÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
February 17th, 2008 21:29 2008³â 2¿ù 17ÀÏ 21:29
Luc I guess you had a fun weekend ÁÖ¸»¿¡ Ä£±¸°¡ÀÖ´Â °Í °°¾Æ¿ä Àç¹Ì ·ó
February 25th, 2008 03:06 2008³â 2¿ù 25ÀÏ 03:06
Thanks vpspr! vpspr °¨»çÇÕ´Ï´Ù!
Your solution worked perfectly. ±ÍÇÏÀÇ ¼Ö·ç¼ÇÀ» ¿Ïº®ÇÏ°Ô ÀÏÀ»ÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
¡°to launch: # python PodNova.pyc¡± "¸¦ Ãâ½Ã : # ÆÄÀ̽ã podnova.pyc"
There is no installation required. ¼³Ä¡°¡ Çʿ䰡¾ø½À´Ï´Ù. Just unzip the tar, navigate to it via the terminal and type in the above command provided by vpspr. ´ÜÁöÀÇ ¾ÐÃàÀ» Ÿ¸£, ±×°ÍÀ» ÅëÇØ À̵¿ÇÏ¿© À§ÀÇ ¸í·ÉÀ» Á¦°øÇÏ´Â Å͹̳ΰú vpspr¸¦ ÀÔ·ÂÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Make a launcher and you won¡¯t have to do that every time you want it started. ±×¸®°í ´ç½ÅÀº ¹ß»ç±â¸¦ ¸¸µé ¶§¸¶´Ù ±× ¿øÇÏ´ÂÇÏÁö ¾Ê¾ÒÀ» ½ÃÀÛÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
April 6th, 2008 06:44 2008³â 4¿ù 6ÀÏ 06:44
I fail to see how the lack of documentation for one application is the fault of python. ÀÌ ºÎÁ· ¹æ½ÄÀ» º¼ ¼ö´Âµ¥ ½ÇÆÐ¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ¼³¸í¼ÀÇ ½Ç¼ö·Î ÇÑ ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥Àº ÆÄÀ̽ãÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I downloaded PodNova and ran into the same issues, but surely trying to pin the blame on Python is like blaming a rice farmer for your inability to operate your microwave to cook your dinner. ´Ù¿î·Îµå¿Í ¿ì¿¬È÷ podnova µ¿ÀÏÇÑ ¹®Á¦, ÁÖ¼®À»ÇÏ·Á°íÇÏÁö¸¸ ºÐ¸íÈ÷ ÆÄÀ̽ã´Â ¸¶Ä¡ ³óºÎÀÇ ½ÒÀ» ºñ³ÇÏÁö ¸øÇÒ¸¦ ¿î¿µÇÏ¿© ±ÍÇÏÀÇ Àú³á ½Ä»ç¸¦ À§ÇØ ¿ä¸®¸¦ ÀüÀÚ ·¹ÀÎÁö.
April 6th, 2008 08:48 2008³â 4¿ù 6ÀÏ 08:48
The lack of documentation has to do with the application only. ºÎÁ·ÇÏ¿© ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À» ¼³¸í¼¿Í °ü°è°¡ ÀÖÁö ¸¸ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. The problem with Python is that Python applications always have too many dependencies. ÆÄÀ̽ã ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À» ÆÄÀ̽ãÀÇ ¹®Á¦´Â Ç×»ó ÀÇÁ¸¼ºÀÌ ³Ê¹« ¸¹½À´Ï´Ù.
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And there is more: you had better install that one very specific version of the extension, or the application won¡¯t work. ±×¸®°í ´õ ¸¹Àº °ÍÀÌÀÖ´Ù´Â : ´ç½ÅÀÌ ´õ ³ªÀº°¡ ¾ÆÁÖ Æ¯Á¤ ¹öÀüÀÇ È®Àå ±â´ÉÀ» ¼³Ä¡Çϰųª ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥ÀÌ ÀÛµ¿ÇÏÁö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù. I¡¯ve even run into more than one Python application that refused to work without an extension and also refused to work after I installed *a newer* version than the one that was required! ³ª´Â ¼ÓÀ¸·Î ´Þ·Á°¡°í, ½ÉÁö¾î´Â °ÅºÎÇÏ´Â Çϳª ÀÌ»óÀÇ ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥ÀÌ ÀÛµ¿ÇÏÁö ¾Ê°í ÆÄÀ̽ãÀÇ È®Àå ¶ÇÇÑ ¼³Ä¡ÇÑ ÈÄ ÀÛµ¿À» °ÅºÎ * »õ * ¹öÀüº¸´Ù ÇÑ »ç¶÷ÀÌ ¹Ù·ÎÀÌ ÇÊ¿äÇÕ´Ï´Ù! The application absolutely required a very specific version that was already old! Àý´ë ÇÊ¿äÇÑ ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À» ¸Å¿ì ±¸Ã¼ÀûÀÎ ¹öÀüÀ»Àº ÀÌ¹Ì ³°Àº! Then what if another finicky Python application rejects that old version and requires the new one? ÆÄÀ̽ã ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À» °ÅºÎÇÏ´Â ¶Ç ´Ù¸¥ ÀÛµ¿ÇÒ ±×·³ ¿¾ ¹öÀüÀ» ÇÊ¿ä·ÎÇÏ´Â »õ·Î¿î Çϳª? I can¡¯t have both applications work. µÑ ´Ù ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À» ÀÛµ¿ ÇÒ ¼ö ¾ø´Ù. Lame. Àý¸§¹ßÀÌÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
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I am biased. ³ª´Â ÆíÆÄÇÕ´Ï´Ù. I am a Tcler. ³ª´Â tclerÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Tcl applications don¡¯t usually require extensions because they are already there. tcl ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À» ÇÊ¿ä·ÎÇÏÁö º¸Åë È®Àå ¶§¹®¿¡ ±×µéÀº À̹ÌÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. It is incredibly easy to embed a Tcl extension into a Tcl application. ±×°ÍÀº ¾ÆÁÖ ½±°Ô tcl È®Àå ±â´ÉÀ» Æ÷ÇÔÇÏ´Â tcl ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À»ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. And even if you don¡¯t, any reasonably recent (last 4 years) version of the extension will work. ±×¸®°íÇÏÁö ¾ÊÀº °æ¿ì¿¡µµ, ¸ðµç ÇÕ¸®ÀûÀ¸·Î ÃÖ±Ù (Áö³ 4 ³â) ¹öÀüÀÇ È®Àå ±â´ÉÀÌ ÀÛµ¿ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Unfortunately, Tcl didn¡¯t attain popularity. ºÒÇàÈ÷µµ, tcl ¾Ê¾Ò Àα⸦ ´Þ¼ºÇÕ´Ï´Ù. Developers preferred Python or Java, probably because it is so difficult to do anything with them that developers that work with these difficult languages automatically become more valuable and have their jobs more secure. °³¹ßÀÚµéÀÌ ¼±È£ÇÏ´Â ÆÄÀ̽ãÀ̳ª ÀÚ¹Ù, ¾Æ¸¶ÀÌ ³Ê¹« ¾î·Á¿ö ÇÒ ÇÊ¿äÇϱ⠶§¹®¿¡ ±×µé°ú °°ÀÌ ¾î·Á¿î ¾ð¾î¸¦ ÀÚµ¿À¸·Î ÀÛµ¿Çϴ°¡ÀÇ °³¹ßÀÚµéÀÌ ´õ¿í ¼ÒÁßÇÏ°í ±×µéÀÇ ÀÏÀÚ¸®°¡ ´õ ¾ÈÀüÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
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Actually, Linux applications should be like GoogleEarth, Firefox or Windows applications: require no extensions. »ç½ÇÀº, ¸®´ª½º ¾ÖÇà ¸®ÄÉÀ̼Ç󷳵Ǿî¾ß Google ¾î½º, ÆÄÀÌ¾î Æø½º, windows ÀÀ¿ë ÇÁ·Î±×·¥ : È®Àå ±â´É ÇÊ¿äÇÏÁö ¾Ê½À´Ï´Ù. OK, offer the stripped down version for the Gentoo propeller heads that are going to whine and moan about the 0.004% lost CPU performance and 0.013% lost disk space. ±×·¡, ÀâÃÊ Á¦°Å ¹öÀüÀ» Á¦°øÇÕ´Ï´Ù gentoo ÇÁ·ÎÆç·¯ ¸Ó¸®¿Í ½ÅÀ½ ¿ïÀ½¼Ò¸®°¡ °¥ 0.004ÆÛ¼¾Æ® ¼Õ½Ç¿¡ ´ëÇØ¼ cpuÀÇ ¼º´É°ú 0.013ÆÛ¼¾Æ® ÀÒÀº µð½ºÅ© °ø°£À»ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. But make a headache-free version available too, for those who have better things to do than troubleshoot extensions of a language that nobody gives a rat¡¯s ass about unless you¡¯re a programmer (and that applies to any programming language). ÇÏÁö¸¸ µÎÅë - ¹«·á ¹öÀüÀ» »ç¿ëÇÒ ¼öµµ »ç¶÷µéÀ» À§ÇØ ´õ ³ªÀº ¾ð¾î¸¦ È®ÀåÇØ¾ß ÇÒ °ÍµéÀÌ ¹®Á¦¸¦ ÇØ°áÇÏ´Â °Íº¸´Ù ÁãÀÇ ¾ûµ¢ÀÌ¿¡ ´ëÇØ ¾Æ¹«µµÇÏÁö ¾Ê´Â ÇÑ ´ç½ÅÀº ÇÁ·Î±×·¡¸Ó (±×¸®°í¿¡ Àû¿ëµÇ´Â ¸ðµç ÇÁ·Î±×·¡¹Ö ¾ð¾î).