12 Responses to “ So What Do You Think Of The New Version Of Viigo? ” 12的反应， “ 因此，您怎么看新版本的viigo ” ？

• 1
  Stefanov stefanov
  December 7th, 2007 02:16 2007年12月7日2时16分

  There is one reason they might want to intentionally make it bigger - maybe they are going to start selling advertising in this space.有一个原因，他们也许会想故意使它更大-也许他们要开始销售的广告在这方面的空间。

  Personally, I switched to the FreeRange reader a while back after using the previous Viigo, mostly for the speed and offline caching, but also in large part because of the types of little details you mention (ability to go full screen to completely eliminate the top bar, page down with space bar, completely control both font and font size, control color scheme options, full story without using the browser).我个人来说，我切换到freerange读者，而回后，使用前viigo ，主要用于高速和离线缓存，而且在很大程度上是因为该类型的小细节，你所提到的（有能力去全屏，彻底消除顶端酒吧，向下翻页与空间酒吧，完全控制这两个字体和字体大小，颜色控制计划方案，完整故事，而不使用浏览器） 。 These are the kinds of things that show such a strong emphasis on quality and on the user over the importance of ‘corporate’ brand.这些都是种的东西，显示如此强烈的重点放在质量和对用户超过的重要性， '公司'的品牌。 It just feels like technically speaking FreeRange is still way out ahead in terms of thinking about how mobile products ought to work.它只是感觉像是从技术上说freerange仍是未来的出路在条款思考如何移动产品应工作。 Sure it’s not free, but nothing *really* ever is.相信这不是免费的，但是没有真正* *以往任何时候都是。
• 2二
  baobei 宝北
  December 7th, 2007 03:23 2007年12月7日3时23分

  I think this screenshot says it all:我觉得这画面说，这一切：

  https://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/_assets/images/wmoc/viigo_screenshot.png通过https ： / /从www.microsoft.com / windowsmobile / _assets /图像/ wmoc / viigo_screenshot.png
• 3三
  luc-mobile 吕克-移动
  December 7th, 2007 08:17 2007年12月7日8时17分

  You don’t mention anything about shortcuts, fonts, links, images and usability in general.你不提什么捷径，字体，链接，图片和可用性的一般问题。 I assume there is none of that in the new version.我猜想是没有的，在新的版本。

  Freerange is expensive, but Viigo is just not really usable in the long run. freerange是昂贵的，但viigo只是没有真正实用，在长远而言。 Too much lack of smart design makes it too uncomfortable.太多缺乏智能的设计使得它太不舒服。 I’ve abandoned it already.我已经放弃它已经。
• 4四
  Jon Strong 琼强烈
  December 7th, 2007 17:49 2007年12月7日17时49分

  Interesting to read the review and comments here.有趣的阅读审查和评论在这里。 I have to admit that I’ma bit surprised, although in the world of “user experience” there are no absolutes.我必须承认我是有点惊讶，虽然在世界上的“用户体验”有没有absolutes 。

  I’ve been using Viigo for a few months, and just upgraded to the latest release.我一直在使用viigo了数个月，和刚刚升级到最新版本。 I’m using the unbranded version right now, and have tried two of the branded versions as well.我使用该品牌的权利，现在的版本，并曾尝试两个品牌的版本，以及。

  I was surprised to read the complaints about the UI — having been a software user, developer and executive for 20+ years, I am exceedingly interested in usability and user experience, and I was really impressed with the “Viigo experience” overall.我很惊讶阅读抱怨的用户界面-经过一个软件用户，开发商和行政长官2 0+年，我非常感兴趣的可用性和用户体验，我是真的留下深刻的印象与“ v iigo经验”的整体。

  I see many components to user experience, including:我看到许多组件的用户体验，包括：
  - ease of obtaining and installing the app -易于获取和安装应用程式
  - ease of configuration -易用性配置
  - intuitively obvious user interface -直观明显的用户界面
  - support for both “naive” and sophisticated users -支持这两个“天真”和先进的用户
  - fast UI response -快速反应的U I
  - attention to UI / commands so that most common operations are readily accessible -重视用户界面/命令，使最常见的行动是容易
  - support from the developers / publishers -支持，从发展商/出版商

  Having used Viigo extensively in the past several weeks, I actually found it to be extremely usable, friendly, intuitive, effective and fast.采用了viigo广泛，在过去几个星期，其实我发现它是非常实用，友好，直观，有效和快速。

  Customer support has been nothing less than superb — putting billion dollar competition to shame.客户支持已不亚于一流的-把数十亿美元竞争的耻辱。 The company also has reps actively involved in various blackberry forums (and more, possibly, for all I know - but that’s where I see them), soliciting input, comments, suggestions — and taking these into account with subsequent releases and enhancements, which tend to come out in a matter of weeks, not months or years as with so many other software companies.该公司还代表积极参与各种黑莓论坛（和更多的，可能的话，所有我知道-但这里我看到他们） ，征求意见，意见，建议-并考虑到这些帐户与随后的新闻稿和增强，这往往出来在几个星期内，而不是几个月或几年，作为与许多其他的软件公司。

  The degree of integration that they’ve recently implemented with “partner” sites like Pinstack is quite clever — I can click a button on a Pinstack forum, and have the feed appear in Viigo on my blackberry — pretty cool.该一定程度的融合，他们最近已经实施了“合作伙伴”网站，像pinstack是相当聪明的-我可以按一个按钮，一p instack论坛，并有饲料出现在v iigo对我的黑莓-很酷。

  My impression is that Viigo is on a roll, innovating quickly — and will likely start to incorporate more and more of the types of features you feel are missing as they grow, although that’s only speculation on my part.我的印象是， viigo是对唱名，创新很快-可能会开始把越来越多的种类，功能，您觉得是失踪，因为他们成长，虽然这只是投机活动对我的一部分。

  In the meantime, my experience with Viigo has been excellent — and I’ve been thrilled to have FAR more than 10 feeds always available to me — without having had to pay a penny for this.在此同时，根据我的经验与viigo一直很好的-和我已经非常兴奋有深远的1 0多个饲料可随时向我-不必要付出一分一毫这一点。 I’m not sure what their business model will evolve into, but they appear to be a creative bunch, making a good attempt at staying close to their customers, and I’ll bet they come up with effective ways of monetizing the audience without clobbering us with excessive fees.我不知道是什么他们的商业模式将演变为，但他们似乎是一个创意的一群，作出了很好的尝试，在下榻的接近他们的客户，我可以打赌他们想出了有效的方法，货币化，观众没有十足的我们与过高的费用。

  Considering how incredibly useful and pleasant Viigo has been for me — and considering that it’s been free, I would personally feel foolish coughing up an annual subscription for another RSS reader on my Blackberry.考虑如何令人难以置信的有用和愉快的viigo一直是我-并考虑到它的是自由，我个人觉得愚蠢的咳嗽起来，每年订阅的另一个R SS阅读器对我的黑莓。

  If Viigo keeps up the rate of evolution we’ve witnessed in the past few months, I suspect that we’ll be seeing many more innovations from them soon.如果viigo跟上率的演变，我们已经目睹了在过去几个月，我怀疑我们会看到更多的创新，从他们很快。

  Note: I’m not a “fanboy” — just very impressed with a responsive company that is evolving a quality product very quickly.注：我不是一个“ fanboy ” -只是非常深刻的印象，与一个负责任的公司，是不断发展的高质量的产品非常快。 I might even have another look at Freerange…but I cannot, for the life of me, imagine what it might have added that would compel me to either cut down my feeds to 10, or pay good money for something I get, and enjoy, free as of today.我可能甚至有另一个看看freerange …但我不能，为我的生活，想象它可能补充说，将迫使我要么削减我的供稿至10 ，或支付金钱，好东西我得到和享受，免费截至今天为止。

  Cheers!干杯！

  - Jon -琼
• 5五
  luc-mobile 吕克-移动
  December 7th, 2007 19:52 2007年12月7日19时52分

  Great comments, Jon.伟大的评论，琼。 But here is the problem:但这里的问题是：
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  “- intuitively obvious user interface” “ -明显的直观用户界面”
  “- support for both naive and sophisticated users” “ -支持这两个天真和先进的用户”
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  Very true former statement.很真实前的声明。 Very false latter one.非常虚假，后者1 。 Many developers make that mistake: make it either just intuitive or just cutting-edge.很多发展商作出这样的错误：它要么只是直觉或只是尖端。 Just intuitive most of the times.只是最直观的时代。 A good application has to be BOTH, and Viigo isn’t.良好的应用已被双方，并viigo并非如此。 It is just intuitive.这只是直观的。 And limited.和有限的。 Come on, anyone will ace it in 10 or 20 minutes, it doesn’t have THAT many features.来吧，人会Ace 。它在10或20分钟，它没有很多的功能。 And once you ace it, you want to go further with it, but you can’t:而一旦你Ace 。它，你想要去的进一步有了它，但你不能：
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  I can’t change fonts.我不能改变字体。 => That is a major hindrance in readability. = >这是一个主要障碍在可读性。 Viigo’s fonts are not that bad, but they become tiresome after some time. viigo的字体是不是坏，但他们成为劳累一段时间后。 We should be able to adjust something which we actually look at all the time.我们应该可以调整的东西其实我们看看所有的时间。
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  It is ugly.这是丑陋的。 => Viigo doesn’t do a good job at balancing text and images/colors in full articles. = > viigo不搞好平衡文本和图像/颜色，在充分的文章。 We get some sort of newspaper-like pure black on white feel that is not pleasant.我们得到某种形式的报纸一样，纯粹的黑与白觉得这是不愉快的。
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  I can’t view links in full articles.我不能查看联系在充分的文章。 => That is a major fault. = >这是一个重大的故障。 They become plain text.他们成为纯文本。 Viigo would force me to “open in browser” all the time. viigo会迫使我“开放在浏览器中”所有的时间。 Switching back and forth between applications in a telephone device is not pleasant either.切换回之间来回申请，在接受电话装置是不愉快的。 Sometimes I don’t even want to open the link.有时我什至不想要开启的联系汇率制度。 It will look awful anyway.它看起来会可怕的，无论如何。 But knowing that one given piece of text is a link can be relevant to the context.但知道一给出了一段文字，是一个连结可以在相关的背景。
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  I can’t view images in full articles.我无法查看图片，在充分的文章。 => Here is a nice feed for you to try in Viigo: = >这里是一个好的饲料您尝试在viigo ： http://feeds.feedburner.com/tapestrydilbert Not only does it look great in Freerange, I can zoom in the image and actually read the comic strip and enjoy every detail.它不仅看看伟大的freerange ，我可以在变焦的形象和实际读连环画和享受每一个细节。 Also in blogs (like this one), images play a very relevant role in the whole story.此外，在博客（这样一） ，图像扮演一个非常相关的作用，在整个故事。 This one site looks good, with images and links, but that’s because you don’t need to pull the full article.此一网站看起来很不错，图片和链接，但是这是因为您不需要拉完整文章。 Compare it with the Crackberry.com or CNET News feeds, for example.比较它与crackberry.com或接受CNET新闻提要，例如。 Many feeds just give a summary, we have to pull the article (pressing the trackball **twice** if you use Viigo) and as soon as we do that, the article looks awful.许多供稿只是提供一个概要，我们要撤出的文章（按下轨迹球的两倍** **如果您使用viigo ）和当我们做到这一点，文章看起来可怕。 Different font, raw layout, no images, no links.不同的字体，原料布局，没有图像，没有联系。 The text might refer to some picture, and you have no idea what they’re talking about because the pictures just ain’t there.文本可能会提及一些图片，和你不知道他们是怎么谈，因为图片只是不存在。 Bad experience.坏的经验。 You don’t notice these problems?你不通知，这些问题呢？ Really?真的吗？
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  Not enough keyboard shortcuts.没有足够的键盘快捷键。 Of course a menu is incredibly intuitive, but also incredibly annoying in a program that runs on such a small device that carries features that must be accessed frequently.当然，一个菜单是令人难以置信的直觉，但也令人难以置信的恼人的在运行的程序，就这样一个小装置，进行功能，必须经常访问的。 Launching those features from the menu all the time is a major pain.开展这些功能从菜单中的所有时间，是一项重大的痛苦。 My thumb hurts from so much clicking, scrolling and selecting.我的拇指痛，从这么多点击，滚动和选择。 Sending an article by e-mail requires the menu.发送一篇文章，通过电子邮件要求的菜单。 Marking several articles as read/unread requires a lot of the menu.标记的若干条款，作为读/未读需要大量的菜单。 Marking several articles for “later” requires a lot of the menu.标记若干条款“后”需要大量的菜单。 There are not enough shortcuts for all features.有没有足够的捷径，所有的功能。 Or maybe there are.或者，也许有。 For the life of me, I can’t find any documentation about Viigo’s keyboard shortcuts.为生活，我无法找到任何文件约viigo的键盘快捷键。 Try looking for them in Freerange.尝试寻找他们在freerange 。 You just can’t miss them.你刚才可不要错过他们。
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  Another very common and nasty “intuitiveness” pitfall: I press the trackball and get a full menu.另一个非常常见的和恶劣的“ intuitiveness ”的陷阱：我按下轨迹球，并得到全菜单。 The same menu I get if I press the Menu key!同样的菜单我，如果我按下菜单的关键！ Why do I need it in two buttons?为什么我需要它在两个按钮？ Freerange is a lot more sensible: the trackball gets the full article. freerange是一个有很多更明智的：轨迹球得到充分的文章。 I suppose the Viigo developers figured that a menu was more “intuitive”.我想该viigo开发商计算的菜单更“直观” 。 Yes, it is, but I often have to open some 35, 50 full articles in a row, and pressing the trackball twice becomes very annoying.是的，是的，但我往往要开放一些35 ， 50 ，充分的文章在一排，并按下轨迹球的两倍变得非常恼人。 I agree that Viigo is very intuitive, but it doesn’t seem to me that they took into the account the fact that we manage and read MANY articles every day, and that whatever may seem more intuitive if done once does not necessarily work well when quantity, scale and/or repetition gets into the equation.我同意viigo是非常直观，但它似乎没有对我说，他们考虑到了该帐户的事实，即我们的管理，并宣读了很多文章，每天，以及一切可能的，似乎更直观，如果一旦做了不一定工作，以及时数量，规模和/或重复进入方程。 Many “intuitive” operations end up getting on my nerves after the 9th, 14th or 39th time I have to do them.许多“直觉”行动，最终获得我的神经后，第九，第14次或39次的时间，我要做的。
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  Actually, Freerange also has some of those problems, as well as many supposedly “mobile” applications.其实， freerange也有一些问题，以及许多假定“移动”的申请。 But they’re a lot worse in Viigo.但他们是吃一堑，更糟的在viigo 。
• 6六
  luc-mobile 吕克-移动
  December 7th, 2007 20:02 2007年12月7日20时02分

  Oh!哦！ Very important: Viigo also forced me to open every single damn item, even those that did not interest me, because it displays them strictly in one single line, which is not enough to hold the entire headline.很重要的： viigo还强迫我打开每一个单一的可恶项目，甚至那些没有我感兴趣的，因为它显示他们严格在一个单一的路线，这是不足够的举行，整个标题。 So I had to open each darn single one just to read the headline and decide if I wanted to open it.因此，我不得不打开每个石坝单一刚才读的标题，并决定如果我想打开它。 Ooops! ooops ！ Too late - opened it already.太迟了-它已经打开。 An-noy-ing… 1 - noy英…
• 7七
  Jon Strong 琼强烈
  December 8th, 2007 09:36 2007年12月8日9时36分

  Luc - you certainly make some interesting points, but it seems that the conversation is drifting more into personal preferences than a general evaluation of the product.吕克-你当然作出一些有趣的点，但似乎该会话是漂流到更多的个人喜好，比一般的评价产品。 Freerange may be perfect for you, but that doesn’t invalidate other products — just as Vista fits the needs of some users, but clearly not all. freerange可能是完美的你，但这并不无效的其他产品-正如V ista的符合需要的一些用户，但显然，并非所有。

  I also hope it doesn’t seem that I’m attacking Freerange, as it’s clearly a powerful and rich product.我也希望它似乎并不认为我攻击freerange ，因为它的显然是一个强大的和丰富的产品。 But if the comparison it raised so that others will have an idea what the two products are like, it should address the pros & cons of each.但如果比较它提出了让其他人将有一个想法是什么，两种产品都是一样，它应解决的利弊及意见，每个。

  First item you mention is that you can’t change fonts.第一个项目，你提的是，你不能改变字体。 While I agree that it would be nice to override the system font when in Viigo, I personally find that Viigo’s tight integration with Blackberry system settings is an excellent design concept - at least as a starting point.虽然我同意，这将是不错凌驾系统字体时，在viigo ，我个人觉得viigo的紧密整合，黑莓系统设置是一个很好的设计概念-至少作为一个起点。 Viigo uses whatever font you’ve chosen in Blackberry screen/keyboard options. viigo用途，无论字体您选择在黑莓屏幕/键盘选项。 For me, and most of the Blackberry users I know, the choice of a system font generally is based on personal eyesight — I chose a font that seems to be the best compromise for me balancing readability and amount of text that can be displayed at once, and this seems to be typical for most device users.对我来说，和大部分的BlackBerry用户，我知道，选择一个系统字体，一般是基于个人的视力-我选择的字体，似乎是最好的折衷办法，我平衡的可读性和金额的文字可以显示在一旦，这似乎是典型的大部分设备用户。 When I chose the font, I was glad to see that it’s used in my email lists, email body display, calendar item display, call log — and in Viigo.当我选择的字体，我很高兴地看到，它的使用在我的电子邮件列表，电子邮件正文显示，日历项目显示，通话记录-在v iigo。 This is an interesting point: I *do* appreciate the variety of fonts available to me in Freerange, but I don’t see a way to simply have it use my global choice, so that it matches the preference I’ve already selected for every other major Blackberry UI.这是一个有趣的一点：我* *欣赏各种字体，可我在freerange ，但我不明白的方式，以简单有它的全球使用我的选择，因此它相匹配的偏好我已经选定每一个其他主要黑莓的用户界面。 To me, both products offer a choice, and both could learn from the other: I’d like to see Viigo offer an option to explicitly override your global font choice, and Freerange would benefit by being able to follow the global setting.对我来说，这两种产品提供一个选择，既可以学习其他：我希望看到viigo提供一个选项，以明确您的凌驾全球字体的选择，并freerange将受益于能够按照全局设置。 BUT…for most users, having your text-based apps following a common preference is a bonus, not a detriment: if I have to choose one type of limitation over another, I personally find that Viigo wins out here.但…对于大多数用户，您的基于文本的应用程序以下一个共同的偏好是一个花红，而不是一个不利的：如果我要选择一种类型的限制，超过另一个，我个人觉得viigo赢在这里。 BTW: we’re just talking about a single application here — can you imagine the day when mobile devices run as many apps as our PC’s — I know that I would want to be able to have my text-based apps follow the global UI conventions as default behavior, so I could avoid having to tweak, set and modify the software publishers’ own default settings for dozens of applications.的BTW ：我们只是在谈论一个单一的应用在这里-你能想象有一天移动设备的运行，许多应用服务作为我们的P C的-我知道我会希望能够有我的基于文本的应用程序按照全球用户界面公约的默认行为，所以我可以不必调整，设置和修改软件出版商自己的默认设置几十个申请。 If I can’t have the whole enchilada, I prefer Viigo’s choice of UI behavior re: fonts, however I would also like to see them offer an opportunity to override if I so desire.如果我不能有整个enchilada ，我宁愿viigo选择的用户界面的行为重新：字型，不过我也想看到他们提供一个机会凌驾如果我使这个愿望。 Freerange could accomplish the same thing by simply adding the ability to use the user’s global font choice as an option. freerange可以完成同样的事情，只要加入的能力，使用用户的全球字体选择作为一个选项。

  Since you raised it, it’s interesting to compare the approach to “view full article” on both products.既然你提出的，这有趣的比较方法“观看全的文章”关于这两种产品。 I actually forgot that pressing the trackball would do this in Freerange…and it’s not an option within the context menu when you’re looking at an abstract.其实，我忘记了按下轨迹球将为此在freerange … …和它的不是一种选择，符合上下文菜单当您从一个抽象的。 You complain that the trackball and context menu are the same in Viigo…but I was surprised to find that the function invoked by the trackball doesn’t show up at all as a choice in the context menu - THAT makes no sense to me.你抱怨说，轨迹球和上下文菜单是相同的在viigo …但我却惊奇地发现，该函数引用由轨迹球不会显示在所有作为一个选择，在上下文菜单-这是没有意义的给我。

  Anyway - back to “view full article”: Yes - Freerange shows you more pictures and links, but it essentially means you’re using the Freerange version of a web browser and downloading the larger content that comes with it.无论如何-回到“观看全的文章” ：是的- fr eerange表明您更多的图片和链接，但它基本上是指您使用的f r eerange版本的W e b浏览器和下载较大的内容，随之而来的。 Not bad, but I personally like the fact that with Viigo, the “full article” gets me the full text, but still significantly faster than it would be if I chose to look at the web page.不坏，但我个人喜欢的事实，与viigo ， “充分的文章”大干我的全文，但仍明显快便，如果我选择看的网页。 If I want to see the article in its original glory, images, links and all, I have the choice in both products to open it in a browser.如果我想看到的文章在其原来的荣耀，图像，链接和所有的，我可以有选择地在这两种产品以打开它在浏览器中。 But Viigo alone gives me the choice to get the full text without the overhead of the full web page.但viigo单，让我选择，以获得全文无开销的全部网页。 Also: in general, if I’m looking for web page functionality, I’d rather count on an external browser like the BB browser or Opera — it’s nice that Freerange can effectively render the web page itself, but that means that this is another core part of the product that will have to be supported, and continue to evolve, as the industry moves forward.还：在一般情况下，假如我要寻找网页功能，我宁愿计数对外部浏览器一样的BB或Opera浏览器-它的尼斯说， f reerange能有效地使网页本身，而是这意味着，这是另一个核心部分的产品将要支持，并继续演变，作为业界向前迈进。 It’s been my experience that such “built-in” versions of web browsers tend to lag the industry in general.它的被我的经验，这种“内置在”版本的Web浏览器往往滞后业界的一般问题。 Freerange may keep up, but I’m not sure it’s to their advantage. freerange可能跟上，但我不能肯定这是他们的优势。 If they want to offer “view in browser” functionality, I suggest leaving it at that, while “full article” pulls down full readable content as quickly as possible - which is what Viigo does, while Freerange imitates a web browser.如果他们要提供“在浏览器中查看”功能，我建议留在认为，虽然“充分的文章”拉下来，充分可读的内容，尽快-这是什么v iigo没有，而f reerange模仿网页浏览器。 I’ve found that Viigo’s approach lets me browse, and read, a newspaper or magazine more quickly, and closer to the way I would browse and read a “real” paper, while still giving me the option to open an article in a browser if I really want all images and links.我发现viigo的做法让我浏览，阅读，报纸或杂志更迅速，更接近的方式我想浏览并宣读了一份“真实”的文件，同时还让我有选择开放的一篇文章一个浏览器，如果我真的想让所有的图片和链接。 You find Viigo’s approach to a “full article” to be ugly: I personally find it to be a good compromise of providing functionalty, faster downloads - and still allowing me to open the article in a browser if that’s what I really want.您找到viigo的做法，以“充分的文章”要丑：我个人认为这是一个很好的妥协提供functionalty ，更快的下载-仍然让我公开的文章在浏览器中，如果那是我真的想要。 This is just a personal preference - but Viigo’s choices work better for me in this area.这只是一个个人喜好-但v iigo的选择，更好地开展工作，我在这方面的工作。

  Speaking of links: I haven’t been able to reproduce this consistently, but after seeing your reply last night, I spent quite a bit of time with Freerange to see what I was missing, and ran into a problem.在谈到链接：我尚未能重现此一致，但后看到您的答复昨晚，我花了相当多的时间与freerange ，看看有什么我失踪，并冲进一个问题。 The very first time I tried “Access Links”, I got an “unhandled exception”.非常我第一次尝试的“准入三通” ，我得到一个“未处理的例外” 。 I was, at the time, a passenger in a car, and we were driving down a dark and bumpy stretch of road last night, so it wasn’t an opportune time to take notes.我是，在时间，一名乘客在一个汽车里，我们被拉低一个黑暗而坎坷的一段道路，昨晚，所以它不是一个适当时机采取笔记。 I got the “unhandled exception” a couple more times during that session when trying to “access links”, but I haven’t been able to duplicate it since.我得到了“未处理的例外”一对夫妇更多次会议期间，当试图“进入三通” ，但我尚未能重复，因为。 There’sa subtle bug lurking there somewhere, and it seems to be pretty obscure.有微妙的错误隐藏有某处，它似乎相当模糊。 Not a killer since I can’t even reproduce it at will…but worth resolving.不是一个杀手，因为我不能，甚至重现它在将… …但值得解决。

  I also like the idea of providing more keyboard shortcuts.我也喜欢这种想法提供更多的键盘快捷键。 I hope that both products will attempt to follow global Blackberry standard shortcuts as a start, and add additional functionality on top of that.我希望这两种产品将试图跟随全球黑莓标准捷径作为一个开始，并添加额外的功能最重要的是。

  I appreciate your comment re: full length article titles, although I’m not sure I’d prefer to have that on ALL the time, as it means less visible titles per screen.我很欣赏你的评论回复：全程文章标题，虽然我不知道我更希望有这对所有的时间，因为它的手段不太显眼的标题％的画面。 However I would like to be able to toggle full vs truncated with a single key when on the article list screen — for both products.不过我想可以切换，充分与截断与一个单一的关键时，对上述文章的清单屏幕上-这两种产品。 That would a nice enhancement for both.这将好加强双方。

  All in all, I think both products have a lot to offer.总括而言，我认为这两种产品有很多提供。 Freerange seems to have added a lot of fine-grained options, which I do like. freerange似乎已经加入了很多细粒的选择，我喜欢。 Viigo seems to have started by having the “Viigo experience” fit more seamlessly into the overall Blackberry experience. viigo似乎已开始由“ viigo经验”更合适的无缝集成到整体的BlackBerry经验。 Recent Viigo releases seem to have been responsive to user comments, and I would like to see them adding more of the kinds of features and options you’ve mentioned.最近viigo新闻稿似乎已经回应用户的意见，我想看到他们加入更多的种功能和选项您所提到的。 In general, I find Viigo to be a quick, seamless and very effective addition to my Blackberry, well integrated with the overall experience — and I appreciate that as a general design philosophy.在一般，我觉得viigo是一个快速，无缝的和非常有效的除了我的黑莓，以及综合与整体的经验-我明白，作为一般的设计理念。 I agree with your general notion that more “expert” features should be added, for those who really want to customize the experience.我同意你的一般概念，即更多的“专家”的特点，应该说，对于那些谁真的想要自订的经验。 However, if I had to choose between the two feature and design sets, for the general population, I suspect that Viigo would be more comfortable for the “average” user as an “out of the box experience”.不过，如果我不得不选择两者之间的特点与设计集，一般人口中，我怀疑viigo会更舒适的“平均”的用户作为一个“出于对票房的经验” 。 If the folks publishing Viigo continue to layer on new features, along the lines of some of the more powerful Freerange features, but stick to their overall design philosophy, I expect that the “mature Viigo” will be a much more coherent product than the “mature Freerange”.如果乡亲出版viigo继续层的新特点，沿线的一些更强大的freerange功能，但坚持他们的整体设计，哲学，我期望的“成熟viigo ”将是一个更为连贯一致的产品比“成熟的freerange “ 。 In the meantime, I find the UI conventions in Viigo to be more transparent to the typical BB user.在此同时，我觉得用户界面公约在viigo应更加透明，以典型的BB心跳用户。 I’ll keep both installed and will make a point of playing with each — but so far, I find Viigo to be a much more natural experience, and I’ve been extremely impressed with the developers’ presence online, and responsiveness to questions and design suggestions.我将密切关注安装，并会作出一点玩弄每个-但直至目前为止，我觉得v iigo是一个更为自然的经验，和我已经极为深刻的印象与发展'的存在网上，和反应的问题和设计建议。 The products will, no doubt, each have their own fans.该产品将毫无疑问，都有自己的球迷。 For now, Viigo fits my preferences better.现在， viigo适合我的喜好更好。
• 8八
  Jon Strong 琼强烈
  December 8th, 2007 09:37 2007年12月8日9时37分

  Sorry for the lack of space between paragraphs on the previous note!对不起，缺乏之间的空间段于前注意！ I used notepad to edit, and pasted the article here.我用记事本编辑，并粘贴的文章在这里。 Unfortunately, the inter-paragraph spaces didn’t translate!不幸的是，跨段位没有翻译！ I’ll re-edit on the page before submitting next time.我会重新编辑在网页上之前，提交下一次。

  - Jon -琼
• 9九
  luc-mobile 吕克-移动
  December 8th, 2007 11:04 2007年12月8日11时04分

  This is an interesting debate.这是一个有趣的辩论。 I wonder if any other post has generated so much discussion as this one.我不知道是否有任何其他职位已经产生了这么多的讨论，因为这1 。 Maybe yes, I’m actually new around here.也许是的，实际上，我正在新在这里。 I will go on with the discussion hoping that it will bring some benefit to everyone eventually.我会继续与讨论，希望它会带来一些好处，大家最终。 I’d like to thank Berry Review for this resource and opportunity.我要感谢浆果检讨此资源和机会。
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  On your first point, I can see your angle, but I don’t think that the same font really looks good across all possible applications.在您的第一点，我可以看到您的角度看，但我不认为相同的字体真的看起来很不错，所有可能的应用。 My BB browser font is not the same one as the global font.我的BB心跳的浏览器的字体是不一样的一作为全球字体。 Also, note that the calendar uses a smaller font.此外，请注意日历使用较小的字体。 I am not really happy with the Blackberry’s stock assortment of fonts to tell you the truth.我不是真的很乐意与黑莓的股票组合的字体告诉你真相。 I like it when an application introduces a new and more pleasant font, despite the loss of device memory.我喜欢它申请时，介绍了一种新的和更舒适的字体，尽管损失装置的记忆。 I hope the new BB OS brings more good-looking fonts, so third-party apps don’t have to waste memory with new ones.我希望新页BB操作系统带来了更多的良好的前瞻性的字体，所以第三党的应用程序不须浪费记忆体与新的。
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  On your second point, it’s really true that Freerange mimicks a browser and renders articles in their full glory.关于你的第二个点，这是真的freerange mimicks浏览器，并使文章在他们充分的辉煌。 That’s Freerange’s best trick of all: it massages the content and layout and leaves it with a nearly perfect balance of text, color and spacing.这freerange的最佳的把戏，所有的：它按摩的内容和布局和叶片，它与近完美的平衡文字，颜色和间距。 Compare a blog’s “full article” in the two RSS readers: Viigo will display even titles, headers, menus, related stories and footers!比较一个博客的“充分的文章”在这两个RSS阅读器： viigo将显示，甚至标题，标题，菜单，相关的故事和页脚！ And with no proper layout, so it just amounts to a fuzzy black-and-white mess that is hard to read.与没有适当的布局，所以它只是相当于一个模糊的黑白一塌糊涂，这是难以阅读。 Viigo is not simple, it’s lazy! viigo并不简单，它的懒惰！ Just rendering pages like a browser, as you say, would be just a more “expensive” but equally lazy approach.刚才绘制的页面就像一个浏览器，正如你所说，将只是一个更“昂贵” ，但也同样懒惰的做法。 Freerange does not do that. freerange并不这样做。 Instead, it seems (just seems) to remove everything that is not content and also apply some custom layout that makes the content look light and elegant.相反，它似乎（似乎） ，以消除一切是不是内容和也适用于一些自定义布局，使内容看轻和优雅。 Freerange even reworks text that is otherwise squeezed around big pictures and looks freerange甚至reworks的文字是，否则挤压周围的大图片，并期待
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  Boy, I wish Web browsers could do that!男孩，我想Web浏览器可以这样做！ The “overhead of the full web page you mention” is not in Freerange, it’s actually in Viigo! “开销全部网页，你所提到的”是不是在freerange ，它实际上在viigo ！ It’s got no colors and links in the stories, instead it’s got a lot of irrelevant junk (side bars, menus, footers etc.).它的没有得到任何颜色和环节，故事，而不是它的了许多不相干的垃圾（方酒吧，菜单，页脚等） 。 Bottom line: full articles look like messy monochrome pamphlets in Viigo and like magazines in Freerange.底线：充分的文章看起来杂乱无章单色小册子， viigo和杂志一样，在freerange 。 I can’t even compare Viigo’s output to that of a newspaper.我不能，甚至比较viigo的输出，即一家报纸。 Newspapers look better than that!报纸看看优于！ I mean come on, take the mobile version of any newspaper, like The Times.我的意思是来上，采取的移动版本的任何报纸，像时代。 It looks way better than a “full article” in Viigo!看来，办法总比一个“充分的文章”在viigo ！
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  I’ve never had an “unhandled exception” with Freerange.我从来没有过一个“未处理的例外”与freerange 。 I bet the developer would like to learn about that.我敢打赌，发展商想了解这一点。 I can’t follow links with Freerange anyway.我可以不跟随联系freerange无论如何。 It just stalls.它只是摊位。 Viigo will follow links and therefore take you farther, but in that ugly fashion I have described already. viigo将后续的联系，因此，带你远，但在这种丑陋的时装我刚才所说的已经。 Anyway, following links sounds like too much to ask from any RSS reader IMO.无论如何，以下链接，好像太多要求从任何RSS阅读器海事组织。 That’s when they will actually have to become Web browsers, which they are not.这时候他们会其实已成为网络浏览器，它们不是。 But I really must know when there are links in the story.但我真的必须知道，当有联系，在故事。 I may want to open them in the browser.我可能要打开他们在浏览器中。 They could be important.他们可以是很重要的。
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  Follow my example: separate paragraphs with a period.按照我的例子：个别段落与一个时期。
• 10十
  luc-mobile 吕克-移动
  December 8th, 2007 11:06 2007年12月8日11时06分

  Ooops! ooops ！ Correction: “it’s NOT really true that Freerange mimicks a browser”.更正： “这不是真的freerange mimicks浏览器” 。 I wish we could post-edit our rants.我想我们可以后我们的编辑rants 。
• 11 11月
  David 国宝
  December 8th, 2007 20:33 2007年12月8日20时33分

  What annoys me MOST about Viigo (current update no exception) is the counter-intuitive use of the ‘n’ and ‘p’ keys.什么annoys我最关心的viigo （目前的更新也不例外）是反直觉使用的' '和以字母P键。 They operate exactly backwards from the integrated messages browser, so I have to keep remembering that when I am in Viigo if I hit ‘n’ it will go to the next message “down” the list, while everywhere else in Blackberry hitting ‘n’ will go to the next message “up” the list.他们的运作完全倒退，从综合信息的浏览器，所以我要保持记忆，当我在viigo如果我击中' '将到下一封邮件“下降”的名单，而其他地方一样，在黑莓打' '将前往下一封邮件“上升”的名单。

  Oh, and yes, I too hate the new larger menu bar across the top.哦，是的，我太恨新的更大的菜单栏全国首位。

  And another thing that irritates me is having to “Open in browser” in order to access links that are embedded in an RSS post.而另一件事刺激我是有“露天在浏览器” ，以便访问的链接嵌入在一个RSS职位。 Viigo is smart enough to underline links in the article view, but not smart enough to let me follow the link into my browser. viigo是聪明强调，链接在文章中的看法，但不聪明，足以让我以下链接到我的浏览器。 I have to first open the article, then scroll through it to find again the link, then click it.我要第一次公开的文章，然后向上滚动，通过它寻找再次链接，然后点击它。 A MAJOR pain in the backside, especially on certain sites like Fierce Wireless and InfoWorld and such.一个重大的痛苦，在背面，尤其是在某些网站上一样，在激烈的无线和资讯等。 20 presses of the spacebar just to get to the article itself once opened in the browser. 20塑机，空格只是去文章本身，一旦打开在浏览器中。
• 12 12月
  Viigo RSS Reader Now Has Advertising | BerryReview viigo RSS阅读器，现在已广告| berryreview
  January 23rd, 2008 11:35 2008年1月23日11时35分

  [...] go to the Viigo Bulletins feed in Viigo you will now see an ad for American Express. [ … … ]到viigo公告饲料中viigo现在，您将看到一个广告，为美国运通。 A bit back ago we mentioned the fact that the Viigo logo banner had grown in the latest release.有点回到以前，我们提到一个事实，即viigo标志的旗帜，增加了在最新发布的。 After speaking to Viigo CEO Mark Ruddock I now know that this was done to [...]后发言viigo首席执行官马克鲁多克现在我知道，这是做[ … … ]

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